That is correct. At least from my personal perspective, the solution was to
find out if any major destination was making decisions based on this list.

After engaging that sole meaningful provider, I'm happy to report they
dropped spamcannibal. So unless someone picked it up, you can likely safely
ignore any spamcannibal listing.

The list maintainer couldn't care less about my concerns and that's his
prerogative, just like it's mine to try and convince it's few remaining
users to drop it.

On Dec 9, 2016 6:13 PM, "Al Iverson" <[email protected]> wrote:

Every blacklist operator has done something that has pissed somebody off at
some point. I recognize their right to exist, and tend not to judge, even
if they don't run things they way I would. Life is more pleasant and
stress-free that way.

Because even though you might say "why would you ever use that piece of
crap" about any blacklist -- and you could even be correct some of the time
-- but somebody does use it somewhere, so it exists and one has to deal
with it sometimes.

Cheers,
Al


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On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Gil Bahat via mailop <[email protected]>
wrote:

> +1 unreasonable for an indiscriminate block on all of Amazon SES. Why
> would anyone want to use such a BL is beyond me given that there are many,
> much better alternatives.
>
> On Dec 9, 2016 5:30 PM, "Vladimir Dubrovin via mailop" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> 25.11.2016 22:50, Al Iverson пишет:
>
> Hi Otto,
>
> Long time no talk. Hope things are going well.
>
> The Spam Cannibal maintainer is a reasonable guy. He doesn't spread
> his contact info far and wide, perhaps because he doesn't want to
> argue with spammers. So, I would feel bad about sharing his details
> publicly. But I will forward your post to him and invite him to follow
> up with you. Hope that helps.
>
>
> I really doubt it. This reasonable guys blacklisted our (Mail.Ru) front
> servers due to same reason ('Generic PTR'). Yes, we have few hundreds of
> front servers, because we host >50% of mailboxes for russian-speaking users
> so we need to count our servers somehow. If you use Spamcannibal you will
> probably have deliverability problems.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Al Iverson
>
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>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Otto J. Makela <[email protected]> <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> Sending this to a couple of secret societies, apologies if you see this twice.
>
> Is there any point in trying to contact Spamcannibal?
>
> One of our clients (we're the Finnish NREN, so an university in Finland)
> was notified via Shadowserver that a swathe of their unused IP space is
> listed on Spamcannibal:
> https://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/Services/Blacklist
>
> Since the network in question has no assigned addresses, there are no DNS
> records for it. We suspect that the netblock was momentarily snatched from
> them via BGP (or some other routing trick) and then used to send spam.
> We'd really like to know more, like get spamples or at least time stamps.
>
> When I tried to get in touch with Spamcannibal about one IP address via
> their contact form, submitting the form resulted in the glib message:
>
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx not eligible for removal: GENERIC PTR
>
> So, anyone know if the form went through, does someone have a contact there,
> and is there any point in doing so?
>
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