This seems like an odd place to raise this, but ok.

Yes, the blocked sender could be applied to both, I'm not sure if/why it
wasn't done that way.

That said, I actually think if you're going to check one, then it's the
RFC5322.From address which is the more logical choice.  It's also the more
user visible choice.

In many instances, messages are sent with VERP like RFC5321.From addresses,
in the case of most mailing list software and commercial marketing mail,
not to mention several forwarding systems.

In the case of spam, I imagine that both the RFC5322.From and RFC5321.From
are highly variable, we don't expect blocked senders to be used for the
type of spam which mutates in an attempt to evade spam filters.  In
general, playing whack-a-mole using filters or blocked senders for the
worst type of spam is a fool's errand, you're much better off using the
report spam feature and letting our systems handle it.

As for the case where you only want to block the RFC5321.From and not the
RFC5322.From, making the user have to choose which of the addresses to
block seems poor, and blocking the RFC5321.From only seems unlikely to make
sense to users either.

Brandon

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:30 AM, Richard Gilbert <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I have become aware that the Google blocked senders list is only
> applied to the From: address, and that we cannot use it to block an
> envelope sender address.  Is it just me who finds this surprising
> (especially given its name)?  Why not check both?  It seems illogical
> to accept a message from an envelope sender address which is in the
> list.  Am I wrong in thinking that in the case of spam the From:
> address is more variable than the envelope sender?  There will be
> cases where we want to block an envelope sender address but unable to
> block the (different) From: address because it is used by legitimate
> mail.
>
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> Corporate Information and Computing Services
> University of Sheffield, Sheffield, S10 2FN, UK
> Phone: +44 114 222 3028
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