On 17-02-06 05:05 AM, G. Miliotis wrote:
On 5/2/2017 12:35, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
Well, that is a fully ignorance of the world. There is many mailservers
in hetzner network (as well as there are some malicious hosts). Taking
all hetzner network in kin liability is something I will not tell on
this open list.
You will find it hard to get a hetzner block removed by microsoft. I've
been trying on and off for over a year now.
You can set up a relay on another provider only for the microsoft
domains and configure your MTA accordingly.
I don't approve of MS' methods but they are the gorilla and they screw
you if they want. Plus, it's their servers. Just don't believe any
"we're working with the community" claims they make on their texts. It's
BS (business), so no reason to have that expectation.
--GM
One of the things to consider, while there might be a lot of abusive
spam sources using their networks, your success may depend on whether
your segment is one of those that Hetzner allows/supplies SWIP/rwhois
listings...
Generally this appears to depend on the data centres..
inetnum: 213.133.96.0 - 213.133.111.255
netname: HETZNER-RZ-NBG-NET
descr: Hetzner Online AG
descr: Datacenter Nuernberg
inetnum: 213.239.212.0 - 213.239.215.255
netname: HETZNER-RZ-NBG-NET
descr: Hetzner Online AG
descr: Datacenter Nuernberg
Don't get individual customer network ranges...
route: 213.239.192.0/18
descr: HETZNER-RZ-NBG-BLK2
origin: AS24940
mnt-by: HOS-GUN
On this range, they seem to allow/give customers SWIP/rwhois listings..
Make sure that you get 'rwhois/SWIP' from them for your IP(s) and it
might help your case.. This way you can point out while the IP(s) may be
delegated by them as an upstream provider, you are taking responsibility
for your portion of that network.
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