On 6/6/2018 6:32 PM, Steve Atkins wrote:
To answer the question in the title: "Probably, yes. Only if your spam filtering is 
bad." As Rob mentions in his article in the case he's discussing the spam would have 
been blocked if they'd had better spam filtering in place.

Steve,

(1) in that particular example, the technology used (uri blacklists checking domains in the body of the message) only applies to a subset of all incoming IPv6 spams, and the portion it doesn't apply to is very significant.

(2) Also, had my subscriber (discussed in that article) not published IPv6 MX records, those incoming IPv6 spams would have been sent via IPv4, and MUCH of that spam would have been easily blocked by low-FP IPv4 blacklists like Spamhaus' IPv4 blacklists and invaluement's IPv4 blacklists. In contrast, IPv6 filtering cannot possibly scale as well as IPv4 since the resulting increase in content filtering would be order of magnitudes more resource-expensive (CPU and RAM) than blocking so many of those connections via low-FP IPv4 blacklists at the perimeter. (especially when running the IPv4 lists locally in rbldnsd)

Therefore, because of (1), IPv6 spam filtering can't possibly be /as/ good (all else being equal) as spam filtering on a system that only accepts IPv4 connections. Because of (2) the filtering can't be as fast/efficient and doesn't scale nearly as well as IPv4 filtering - and the quality of one's content spam filtering doesn't change that. In fact, filtering IPv6 spam will cause an INCREASE in necessary investments in more types of content filtering (to compensate for these not being blockable anymore via IPv4 blacklists), and that only further exacerbates the resource problems, which then only makes IPv6 filtering even LESS scalable.

Steve - you have some valid points, but I think your "probably, yes" answer to the question in the title of my article fails to factor in these things. Due to these things I mentioned above, even someone with "good filtering" (who publishes IPv6 MX records) is still going to need EVEN MORE resource-expensive content filtering, which will require MORE hardware to run this increased content filtering, and such increases in content filtering does not scale very well (or at least don't scale inexpensively!). Also, their content filtering is STILL going to have some false positives in situations where the spam would have been easily blocked by IP4v blacklists had those IPv6 MX records not been published, and the content filtering missed. Also, the example of that spam being blockable via ivmURI was somewhat anecdotal. While ivmURI can greatly help to block IPv6-sent spams that otherwise would have been blocked by IPv4 IP blacklists, ivmURI doesn't solve the entire problem, nor can ANY content filtering be nearly as efficient as when an IPv4 DNSBL blocks the spam at the perimeter! In fact, many medium and large systems heavily depend on their content filters getting a reduced spam volume due to IPv4 blocking a high percentage of such spams BEFORE the body of the message is accepted (before DATA).

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Rob McEwen
https://www.invaluement.com


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