Thanks, Gentlemen.

To be clear here, I've seen nothing from Signal Amarques to indicate that
they're claiming a relationship with Signal Spam; it's only been my client
that's conflated the two.

I have enough information here to go forward, and I appreciate your quick
responses.

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 4:12 AM Benjamin BILLON <bbil...@splio.com> wrote:

> Hi again,
>
>
>
> So they're definitely unrelated, but Signal Arnarques appears to have a
> community of people behind it. They do name&shame, notify hosting
> providers, etc.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately sounds-alike, but not purposely malicious.
>
>
>
> Thomas Fontvielle, from Signal Spam, could contact your client to clarify
> this if you think it's relevant.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> *Benjamin*
>
>
>
> *From:* mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> *On Behalf Of *Mathieu Bourdin
> *Sent:* mardi 27 novembre 2018 09:47
> *To:* mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [mailop] Sanity Check - Signal Spam and Signal Arnaques
>
>
>
> Hi Todd,
>
>
>
> Benjamin beat me to it (must still be on a different timezone) but I can
> also confirm that the two organization have no relation, I’ve been on the
> signal spam board for some time now and that’s actually the first time I’ve
> heard about this signal-arnaque thing. The issue you describe is
> unfortunately one we sometime get with other similar websites like WoT who
> do not actually check for the real source in case of spoofing or, in case
> of legitimate complaints, let people categorize bad behavior in their own
> biased way.
>
>
>
> Mathieu Bourdin.
>
> NP6.
>
>
>
>
>
> *De :* mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> *De la part de* Benjamin BILLON
> *Envoyé :* mardi 27 novembre 2018 07:32
> *À :* mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
> *Objet :* Re: [mailop] Sanity Check - Signal Spam and Signal Arnaques
>
>
>
> Hi Todd,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the notice. That's definitely not Signal Spam, although it
> doesn't look totally malicious.
>
>
>
> Signal Spam works with law enforcement authorities and security companies
> and initiative (among others) to help punishing ... bad people.
>
>
>
> I'll notify the Signal Spam folks.
>
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
> --
> *Benjamin*
>
>
>
> *From:* mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> *On Behalf Of *Todd Herr via
> mailop
> *Sent:* mardi 27 novembre 2018 03:31
> *To:* mailop@mailop.org
> *Subject:* [mailop] Sanity Check - Signal Spam and Signal Arnaques
>
>
>
> Hi.
>
>
>
> I believe from past posts that there are Signal Spam reps on this list,
> and I just want to sanity check something with them.
>
>
>
> We have a customer seeing their good name sullied on the website
> signal-arnaques.com, where they're being implicated as sending fraudulent
> messages. They're not actually sending fraudulent messages, and they have a
> DMARC p=reject policy in place that should cause these messages to never
> see a mailbox, but there's at least one ISP out there that doesn't honor
> DMARC, and so mailbox holders at that ISP are getting messages "From" my
> customer and posting them to signal-arnaques.com as "Scam Website
> Announcement".
>
>
>
> My customer is frantic, and keeps referring to signal-arnaques.com as
> "Signal Spam", but I don't get the sense that the two are related in any
> sense of the word; different domains, different physical addresses,
> different operating models, it appears. However, I would like to get an
> official pronouncement from someone more knowledgeable than I that the two
> organizations are completely unrelated.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> --
>
> *todd herr*
>
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