If you still want to self-host, maybe use something like Mailgun as a
relay service? I am running a small discussion list on a RPi and it
distributes email via Mailgun with no complaints from the participants
so far.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 3:07 PM Lennert Van Alboom via mailop
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>
> I've been self hosting all of my stuff for years - websites, DNS, mail - but 
> it's become increasingly difficult to keep the mail part afloat. Google
> is the most notorious roadblock - even though I have a dedicated public 
> subnet, SPF, DKIM, DMARC, SRS and antispam implemented, and 99% of mail is
> plaintext with occasionaly some attachments, most of my mail is dumped into 
> "Spam" on their side, both for gmail and the business services. Sometimes
> even delivering is being refused at connect time. The amount of time I lose 
> on calling people and checking their spam folder is just too much, knowing
> I have a business to run with those mails.
>
> My stuff runs at Hetzner (dedicated hardware, /29 subnet for myself). From 
> what I've read in a mail thread here earlier, the problem is almost
> certainly with the network reputation of Hetzner; bad neighbours drag down 
> the whole netblock, and I'm collateral damage. Nothing can be done except
> moving to another hoster and praying I don't bump into the same problem there.
>
> I'm tired of fighting the windmills. Protonmail looks good on paper; it's not 
> cheap, but neither is my hosting now. Does anyone have experience with
> them? Any catches? Alternatives?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Lennert
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