Thanks for the replies.

I'm not sure I still want to self-host, honestly. The amount of time it has cost me to keep this setup afloat despite being in Google's crosshairs is mind-blowing, and I no longer get any satisfaction from it. It was great while it lasted, but right now I'd be over the moon if I could just drop my mail somewhere, configure it, and stop worrying about spam scores and availability and so on.

Requirements are fairly straightforward - no particular legal obligations for anything, a handful of users, a dozen domains, 180-ish mail addresses. From those 180, 110+ can be replaced by user+tag@domain (currently each of those is a proper virtual address for historical reasons) and another 40-50 are "technical" accounts - postmaster, admin, info, webmaster, abuse. So I could fit in the Protonmail "Visionary" scheme without a problem.

I was looking at Protonmail because the company doesn't have access to the mail it hosts (hello, Google and scanning private communications), is located in a European country with tough laws, and seems to have a good reputation. "Seems", since apart from a handful of people I know who use it I haven't got much of a view on them. Hence asking here.



On 2020-01-27 14:39, Yiorgos [George] Adamopoulos wrote:
If you still want to self-host, maybe use something like Mailgun as a
relay service? I am running a small discussion list on a RPi and it
distributes email via Mailgun with no complaints from the participants
so far.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 3:07 PM Lennert Van Alboom via mailop
<[email protected]> wrote:

I've been self hosting all of my stuff for years - websites, DNS, mail - but it's become increasingly difficult to keep the mail part afloat. Google is the most notorious roadblock - even though I have a dedicated public subnet, SPF, DKIM, DMARC, SRS and antispam implemented, and 99% of mail is plaintext with occasionaly some attachments, most of my mail is dumped into "Spam" on their side, both for gmail and the business services. Sometimes even delivering is being refused at connect time. The amount of time I lose on calling people and checking their spam folder is just too much, knowing
I have a business to run with those mails.

My stuff runs at Hetzner (dedicated hardware, /29 subnet for myself). From what I've read in a mail thread here earlier, the problem is almost certainly with the network reputation of Hetzner; bad neighbours drag down the whole netblock, and I'm collateral damage. Nothing can be done except moving to another hoster and praying I don't bump into the same problem there.

I'm tired of fighting the windmills. Protonmail looks good on paper; it's not cheap, but neither is my hosting now. Does anyone have experience with
them? Any catches? Alternatives?


Thanks,


Lennert
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