That might be your email client rendering my original message differently - there shouldn't be any delimiter necessary in your SPF record at the beginning/end, you can remove them.

On 1/18/2023 10:44 AM, John Covici via mailop wrote:
So, what can I use to begin and end the record?  Do I need any
delimiter character like Mark gave me?

Thanks.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 10:59:21 -0500,
Giovanni Bechis via mailop wrote:
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On 1/18/23 16:34, John Covici via mailop wrote:
Thanks for that -- for some reason, an spf lookup site which I have
used says no spf record, are you seeing for covici.com or
ccs.covici.com ?

covici.com and ccs.covici.com spf record are still invalid:

covici.com descriptive text "/v=spf1 a include:covici-com.spf-a.smtp25.com 
include:covici-com.spf-b.smtp25.com include:covici-com.spf-c.smtp25.com a:ccs.covici.com 
a:debian-2.covici.com -all/"

ccs.covici.com descriptive text "/v=spf1 a include:covici-com.spf-a.smtp25.com 
include:covici-com.spf-b.smtp25.com include:covici-com.spf-c.smtp25.com a:ccs.covici.com 
a:debian-2.covici.com -all/"

spf records should not start nor end with "/".

  Giovanni




On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:55:05 -0500,
Bill Cole via mailop wrote:
On 2023-01-18 at 05:08:00 UTC-0500 (Wed, 18 Jan 2023 05:08:00 -0500)
John Covici via mailop <[email protected]>
is rumored to have said:

[...]
   Source
Received: by mail-tester.com (Postfix, from userid 500)
        id 567CCA0BC0; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:59:14 +0100 (CET)
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on
mail-tester.com
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No/0.3/5.0
X-Spam-Test-Scores:
KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.32,SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001,SPF_NONE=0.001,
        URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001
X-Spam-Last-External-IP: 166.84.7.93
X-Spam-Last-External-HELO: covici.com
X-Spam-Last-External-rDNS: debian-2.covici.com
X-Spam-Date-of-Scan: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:59:14 +0100
X-Spam-Report:
        *  0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was
        *      blocked.  See
        *      http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block
        *      for more information.
        *      [URIs: covici.com]
        *  0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record
        *  0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record
*  0.3 KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS Relay HELO differs from its IP's reverse DNS
***** I don't understand this one, I have rdns pointers on
           ccs.covici.com and debian-2.covici.com .
Those are the names of rules in the SpamAssassin filter that
mail-tester.com unfortunately purports to demonstrate. They are
using an obsolete version of SA with (apparently) local rule
adjustments and they have chronically m isreported the sign of SA
scores, confusing users. As someone who fields SpamAssassin bug
reports, I despise them.

KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS means that one of the trustworthy set of
Received headers shows a handoff from a machine that identified
itself (in the EHLO or HELO step of the transaction) with a name
that did not match the name that the connecting IP's PTR record
points to, which does resolve back to the connecting IP. This is
a minor issue, and while it is more common in spam, the
correlation is weak enough  to earn a fairly low score for that
rule. In the current full SA ruleset it is scored at 0.001:
basically meaningless.

[...]
OK, even without dkim and marc, why is gmail rejecting?
Only GMail can tell you for sure, if even they can.

Give it some time with your fixed SPF. That *may* be adequate,
but Google changes can take time.


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