It appears that John Covici via mailop <[email protected]> said:
>So, what can I use to begin and end the record?  Do I need any
>delimiter character like Mark gave me?

In actual TXT records the delimiter is "quotes" but if you're using
some kind of web crudware to manage your DNS, it invariably adds the
quotes so you should not.

Also, if you want your mail delivered, don't use -all (and ignore the
outraged replies from people who insist it's "more secure".) Most of
us use ~all which works fine. The only people who need -all are major
phish targets like banks and Paypal.

R's,
John

>On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 10:59:21 -0500,
>Giovanni Bechis via mailop wrote:
>> 
>> [1  <multipart/signed (en-US) (7bit)>]
>> [1.1  <multipart/mixed (7bit)>]
>> [1.1.1  <text/plain; UTF-8 (base64)>]
>> On 1/18/23 16:34, John Covici via mailop wrote:
>> > Thanks for that -- for some reason, an spf lookup site which I have
>> > used says no spf record, are you seeing for covici.com or
>> > ccs.covici.com ?
>> > 
>> covici.com and ccs.covici.com spf record are still invalid:
>> 
>> covici.com descriptive text "/v=spf1 a include:covici-com.spf-a.smtp25.com 
>> include:covici-com.spf-b.smtp25.com include:covici-com.spf-c.smtp25.com
>a:ccs.covici.com a:debian-2.covici.com -all/"
>> 
>> ccs.covici.com descriptive text "/v=spf1 a 
>> include:covici-com.spf-a.smtp25.com include:covici-com.spf-b.smtp25.com
>include:covici-com.spf-c.smtp25.com a:ccs.covici.com a:debian-2.covici.com 
>-all/"
>> 
>> spf records should not start nor end with "/".
>> 
>>  Giovanni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:55:05 -0500,
>> > Bill Cole via mailop wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> On 2023-01-18 at 05:08:00 UTC-0500 (Wed, 18 Jan 2023 05:08:00 -0500)
>> >> John Covici via mailop <[email protected]>
>> >> is rumored to have said:
>> >> 
>> >> [...]
>> >>>   Source
>> >>> Received: by mail-tester.com (Postfix, from userid 500)
>> >>>  id 567CCA0BC0; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:59:14 +0100 (CET)
>> >>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on
>> >>> mail-tester.com
>> >>> X-Spam-Level:
>> >>> X-Spam-Status: No/0.3/5.0
>> >>> X-Spam-Test-Scores:
>> >>> KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.32,SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001,SPF_NONE=0.001,
>> >>>  URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001
>> >>> X-Spam-Last-External-IP: 166.84.7.93
>> >>> X-Spam-Last-External-HELO: covici.com
>> >>> X-Spam-Last-External-rDNS: debian-2.covici.com
>> >>> X-Spam-Date-of-Scan: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 09:59:14 +0100
>> >>> X-Spam-Report:
>> >>>  *  0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was
>> >>>  *      blocked.  See
>> >>>  *      http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block
>> >>>  *      for more information.
>> >>>  *      [URIs: covici.com]
>> >>>  *  0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record
>> >>>  *  0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record
>> >>> *  0.3 KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS Relay HELO differs from its IP's reverse DNS
>> >>> ***** I don't understand this one, I have rdns pointers on
>> >>>           ccs.covici.com and debian-2.covici.com .
>> >> 
>> >> Those are the names of rules in the SpamAssassin filter that
>> >> mail-tester.com unfortunately purports to demonstrate. They are
>> >> using an obsolete version of SA with (apparently) local rule
>> >> adjustments and they have chronically m isreported the sign of SA
>> >> scores, confusing users. As someone who fields SpamAssassin bug
>> >> reports, I despise them.
>> >> 
>> >> KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS means that one of the trustworthy set of
>> >> Received headers shows a handoff from a machine that identified
>> >> itself (in the EHLO or HELO step of the transaction) with a name
>> >> that did not match the name that the connecting IP's PTR record
>> >> points to, which does resolve back to the connecting IP. This is
>> >> a minor issue, and while it is more common in spam, the
>> >> correlation is weak enough  to earn a fairly low score for that
>> >> rule. In the current full SA ruleset it is scored at 0.001:
>> >> basically meaningless.
>> >> 
>> >> [...]
>> >>> OK, even without dkim and marc, why is gmail rejecting?
>> >> 
>> >> Only GMail can tell you for sure, if even they can.
>> >> 
>> >> Give it some time with your fixed SPF. That *may* be adequate,
>> >> but Google changes can take time.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> -- 
>> >> Bill Cole
>> >> [email protected] or [email protected]
>> >> (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses)
>> >> Not Currently Available For Hire
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