Am 11.12.2023 um 09:26:36 Uhr schrieb Kirill Miazine:

> • Marco Moock [2023-12-11 09:13]:
> [...]
> > > 
> > > Anyone has any experience with this list or who the operator is?
> > >   
> > 
> > The latter is something they hide because spammers would threat them
> > otherwise.  
> 
> Then does it make sense to reference that list in SMTP responses at
> all?

Yes, because admins of the IP can then check that list and find out why
they were listed.

The residential address of the operator is a risk, because spamming is
a criminal activity in most countries and spammers are sometimes
organized like the mafia. They hate those lists and try to bring them
down by all kinds of attacks. Not providing them more attack surface
than necessary isn't a bad idea.
Providing a residential address means spammers and ISPs hosting them
have an easy way to abuse that address for fraudulent orders, treating
the people living there personally and other nasty stuff.

> > > Inability to do external DNS lookups makes it impossible to
> > > monitor for presence on their list.    
> > 
> > Why is that impossible for your?  
> 
> Well, I *could*, but then I'd have to deploy something at them to be
> able to do lookups from their network, as the zone does not answer
> external queries. Here trying from my system:
> 
> km@stable ~ $ dig +short 125.153.108.65.dnsbl.spam.fail
> km@stable ~ $ 

Ok, interesting.
It seems the list is not public like others.

The only way to get information is their website, I was able to query
it.
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