Dnia 30.04.2024 o godz. 14:44:32 Matus UHLAR - fantomas via mailop pisze:
> OTOH, UCEPROTECT-L3 is a strong sign there's something bad with the
> ISP and/or its customers (same as UCEPROTECT-L2).
> 
> Of course you should only use it at SMTP level if feel your mission
> is to educate ISPs (or, not use it as decisive, just one of signs).

I will strongly hold on to the approach that if there's no strong evidence
that the sender (not ISP, not neighbors, but that particular sender) is a
spammer, treat them as legitimate. "Innocent until proven guilty". In edge
cases, it's always better to let a spam message go through than block a
legitimate message.

I think mission of everyone who runs a mail server is to facilitate
communication. Not to try (with dubious result) "educate" anyone by blocking
that communication. I block spammers to protect myself from spam, not to
"educate" anyone. Every reasonable person knows that spamming is bad. Even
spammers know that. If they're still spamming despite knowing this, nobody
is gonna "educate" them. If there's an ISP that doesn't care about their
users spamming, nobody's gonna "educate" them too. But still, some user may
choose that ISP (maybe because he/she doesn't have any other choice) to host
their mail server. He/she should not be punished for what other users of
that ISP do.

In my opinion it's very bad that many mail recipient nowadays are doing the
exact opposite of what I described above, ie. treat senders as "guilty
until proven innocent". Basically it's a dead loop, because how in the hell
one can "gain a reputation", if any unknown sender (and *everyone* was
"unknown" at some point in the past) is initially treated as spammer?  No
delivery = no reputation, and no reputation = no delivery. Dead loop that
hinders the communication instead of facilitating it.

If someone doesn't want to receive mail, don't run a mail server. It's
simple.
-- 
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   Jaroslaw Rafa
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