On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 08:44:02AM -0400, David Prall via mailop wrote:

> Followed instructions found here:
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/security/email-security-appliance/200169-Configure-ESA-to-prefer-Perfect-Forward.html#anc8
> 

I'm fairly confident that those instructions are rather dated, and that
ESA software surely enables support for ECC certificates and ECDHE key
exchange by default.

> > [InternalId=26474178412560, Hostname=edge02.systema-online.de] 7144
> > bytes in 4.764, 1,464 KB/sec Queued mail for delivery'.

That host does support ECDSA with a P-256 certificate, and prefers P-384
for key exchange, but also support P-256.  It should be fine.

    $ (sleep 2; printf 'QUIT\r\n') | openssl s_client -starttls smtp -brief 
-connect edge02.systema-online.de:25
    ...
    CONNECTION ESTABLISHED
    Protocol version: TLSv1.2
    Ciphersuite: ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
    Peer certificate: CN=edge02.systema-online.de
    Hash used: SHA256
    Signature type: ecdsa_secp256r1_sha256
    Peer Temp Key: ECDH, secp384r1, 384 bits
    250 XSHADOW
    DONE

    $ (sleep 2; printf 'QUIT\r\n') | openssl s_client -starttls smtp -brief 
-connect edge02.systema-online.de:25 -groups X25519:P-256
    ...
    CONNECTION ESTABLISHED
    Protocol version: TLSv1.2
    Ciphersuite: ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
    Peer certificate: CN=edge02.systema-online.de
    Hash used: SHA256
    Signature type: ecdsa_secp256r1_sha256
    Peer Temp Key: ECDH, prime256v1, 256 bits
    250 XSHADOW
    DONE

As is overwhelmingly common, no additional RSA certificate:

    $ (sleep 2; printf 'QUIT\r\n') | openssl s_client -starttls smtp -brief 
-connect edge02.systema-online.de:25 -cipher aRSA -groups X25519:P-256
    Connecting to 178.15.145.70
    C010475D137F0000:error:0A000126:SSL routines::unexpected eof while 
reading:ssl/record/rec_layer_s3.c:696:

-- 
    Viktor.  🇺🇦 Слава Україні!
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