Am 20.01.26 um 18:30 schrieb Andrew C Aitchison via mailop:
Would a
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header be reliable ?
If Google somehow wakes up and decides to take care of the issue there are much
easier steps to take:
1. Always require confirmed opt-in for group subscriptions, except in
situations where the group admin's identity has
been verified and automated/mass subscriptions are audited, with the
understanding that such information will be
made available to affected parties who want to take legal steps. That alone
should be enough to stop 99% of this crap.
2. Empty the membership lists of some dozen Google Group IDs which contain
unvoluntarily subscribed addresses. There
really aren't that many, my current list has 57 IDs.
3. If those lists belonged to some real person or organization, they need to
explain how the addresses got into those
lists, and need to be vetted similar to bullet point 1.
It's really that easy (of course, unless I thoroughly misunderstood something about the internals of Google Groups, but
as noone in the know has been willing to explain it to me, I really can't be blamed for that).
It's a matter of will, and that seems to be lacking. With Google, I can't suspect incompetence of the organization, only
maybe willful delegation of abuse handling to incompetent entities.
Cheers,
Hans-Martin
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