HI Norbert

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On 26/02/2026 12:04, Fehlauer, Norbert via mailop wrote:

Hi,

I’m having a problem receiving mails from some sending servers. The logfile shows, that the sending server won’t send after the tls session is started:

2026-01-20T14:22:07.126Z,edge01\Internet,08DE372FE331F619,7,10.0.0.4:25,194.42.96.41:35025,*,,"TLS protocol SP_PROT_TLS1_2_SERVER negotiation succeeded using bulk encryption algorithm CALG_AES_256 with strength 256 bits, MAC hash algorithm CALG_SHA_384 with strength 0 bits and key exchange algorithm CALG_ECDH_EPHEM with strength 384 *bits"*
*2026-01-20T14:22:07.141Z,edge01\Internet,08DE372FE331F618,8,10.0.0.4:25,194.42.96.41:46695,-,,Remote(SocketError)*
*2026-01-20T14:22:07.159Z,edge01\Internet,08DE372FE331F619,8,10.0.0.4:25,194.42.96.41:35025,-,,Remote(SocketError)*

Presumably the remote server suddenly disconnected. Why will hopefully be in the logs of the remote server. I don't think there is evidence to support it being a timeout issue.

https://de.ssl-tools.net/mailservers/systema-online.de

Does not resolve to a website for me.

testing with this tool seems to be different handling when using the server with ecc certificate (edge02) instead of RSA based certificate. Both are Exchange Servers with Edge Role.

I contacted the supportdesk of an affected sender (cleverreach) and they send me some telnet logs, but I just don’t see any hint if the problem is on my side or if the sending side just handles something wrong.

$ telnet edge01.systema-online.de 25 Trying 178.15.145.73...Connected to edge01.systema-online.de.Escape character is '^]'.220 edge01.systema-online.de Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Wed, 25 Feb 2026 10:28:08 +0100ehlo crash.crsend.com250-edge01.systema-online.de Hello [80.228.25.228]250-SIZE 20971520250-PIPELINING250-DSN250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES250-STARTTLS250-8BITMIME250-BINARYMIME250-CHUNKING250 SMTPUTF8ehlo crash.crsend.com250-edge01.systema-online.de Hello [80.228.25.228]250-SIZE 20971520250-PIPELINING250-DSN250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES250-STARTTLS250-8BITMIME250-BINARYMIME250-CHUNKING250 SMTPUTF8500 5.3.3 Unrecognized command 'unknown'ehlo crash.crsend.com500 5.3.3 Unrecognized command 'unknown'ehlo crash.crsend.com250-edge01.systema-online.de Hello [80.228.25.228]250-SIZE 20971520250-PIPELINING250-DSN250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES250-STARTTLS250-8BITMIME250-BINARYMIME250-CHUNKING250 SMTPUTF8250-edge01.systema-online.de Hello [80.228.25.228]250-SIZE 20971520250-PIPELINING250-DSN250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES250-STARTTLS250-8BITMIME250-BINARYMIME250-CHUNKING250 SMTPUTF8

Anyone has an idea what the problem might be?

Hard to tell from this string of data. Seems that during the telnet session, some invalid input was given. I would say that whatever error was made in the telnet session is unrelated to your problem. Reason for saying that is that telnet is not useful for testing encrypted connections. For this kind of testing openssl s_client command is appropriate. It's important to get the logging from the same transaction that gave you the error or if it's a test to reproduce the error, it's important to capture both sides of the logging from the same test, else you won't really know if the error is the same one you're troubleshooting or an unrelated one.

Regards

Norbert

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