Hi Michael,

that looks promising. I’m going to tell that the CR support. As I understand it 
Exchange is in this case rfc-conform and the sender isn’t, right?

Kind regards
Norbert

Von: Michael Brown <[email protected]>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2026 19:41
An: [email protected]; Fehlauer, Norbert <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [mailop] Problem: Timeout after starttls

On 2026-02-26 08:15, Fehlauer, Norbert via mailop wrote:
For this kind of testing openssl s_client command is appropriate

warning: some mailservers tolerate a bare LF in the protocol, and some do not 
and require CRLF (as per spec)

This bit me in the past; Microsoft's mailservers are intolerant of this and it 
appears edge01.systema-online.de is as well… which isn't surprising given it's 
Exchange.

See:

[baron ~]$ openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect edge01.systema-online.de:25

CONNECTED(00000003)

…

Verification: OK

---

250 XSHADOW

EHLO baron.my.net

451 4.7.0 Timeout waiting for client input

40170D31C47F0000:error:0A000126:SSL routines:ssl3_read_n:unexpected eof while 
reading:../ssl/record/rec_layer_s3.c:322:

vs (with -crlf):

[baron ~]$ openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect edge01.systema-online.de:25 
-crlf

CONNECTED(00000003)

Verification: OK

---

250 XSHADOW

EHLO baron.my.net

250-edge01.systema-online.de Hello [159.203.42.156]

250-SIZE 37748736

250-PIPELINING

250-DSN

250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES

250-X-EXPS NTLM

250-8BITMIME

250-BINARYMIME

250-CHUNKING

250-XEXCH50

250-SMTPUTF8

250 XSHADOW

RSET

RENEGOTIATING

409772A6C57F0000:error:0A000126:SSL routines:ssl3_read_n:unexpected eof while 
reading:../ssl/record/rec_layer_s3.c:322:
M.

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Michael Brown

Civilized Discourse Construction Kit, Inc.

https://www.discourse.org/

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