> On 21.03.26 14:02, Matus UHLAR - fantomas via mailop wrote:
> >> Operating public mailing lists with no double opt-in is a no-go for a
> >> long time.
> > 
> > Please use the term "configmed opt-in" - it's not "double" as nobody is
> > required to sign-up two times. The confirmation it really important.
> 
> Technically it is also a double opt in as "opt in" does not mean
> "subscribe", but is defined as "choose to participate in something" in
> the Oxford English Dictionary.
> 
> While one is a confirmation, both actions are a choice.

Indeed, although the phrase "confirmed opt-in" includes the fact that 
"consent to be subscribed" was knowingly confirmed (at least in the 
context of eMail, that is).  The phrase "double opt-in" doesn't go 
this far, which is why "less reputable" eMail marketers prefer it.

(This whole conversation came up in NANAE back in the 1990s multiple 
times, and "confirmed opt-in" was always the preferred narrative 
among the anti-spam community as I recall.)

> Why, yes? I am German. I learn nitpicking in school. ;-)

I'm Canadian.  I learned nitpicking after school, in detention. ;-)

> Regards,
> Thomas Walter
> 
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