On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 01:37:51PM +0000, Drew Weaver via mailop wrote:
> About a month ago a user on one of our legacy ISP SMTP servers was 
> compromised [and the user removed].
> 
> Since then gmail has blacklisted the IP of that SMTP server. I can't open a 
> report in postmaster tools because it says there is not enough data to 
> validate the email sender requirements and there never will be enough data 
> because the SMTP server is blocked.
> 
> So I am in a circular loop that seemingly has no end.
> 
> I have tried to submit a report for this issue under another domain that does 
> seem to work in postmaster tools but they just keep closing those reports.
> 
> Is there any other way to contact someone at Gmail? A lot of elderly folks 
> would love to be able to email their families again.

This sounds somewhat similar to my experience. The main issue here is, if I 
interpret this correctly,
that your outbound mail volume is below their threshold for caring at all.

If you're below whatever the limit is (in the thousands per day at least, but I 
forget the
specifics), and you are not their paying customer, they will not be moved to 
adjust their
system at all.

And as indicated in a thread here not too many weeks ago, there are indicators 
that
the system they use is something that was created by people who are no longer 
around,
hard to maintain and opaque to the people tasked with the care and feeding.

Somebody who contacted me as a result of that thread from somewhere that seems 
to be
close to the processes told me that "if you feed the same message to the system 
twice,
you will get different results" or words to that effect.

The method I have used with some degree of success is to 

1) send your mail from your regular address
2) contact the recipient via a gmail account and tell them to check their Spam 
folder,
   if your message is in there, report as not spam

Repeat enough times and it might help if your setup is in reasonable shape 
otherwise.

This of course does not help in those cases where their system chooses to just 
make
your message disappear after reporting message received back in the SMTP 
dialogue.

I have published some rants on this earlier, findable via the list archives.

All the best,
Peter

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
https://nxdomain.no/~peter/blogposts https://nostarch.com/book-of-pf-4th-edition
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
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