On 2026-06-15 at 18:44 -0400, postfix--- via mailop wrote: > On 2026-06-14 21:46, Ángel via mailop wrote: > > On 2026-06-14 at 19:32 -0400, postfix--- wrote: > > > >> 64.62.197.0/24 shadowserver.org > >> > > > A lot of good words for them. HOWEVER: IMHO, the opt out model > > > is > > > insufficient and unacceptable. Another signal. > > > > > > > Shadowserver is a non-profit foundation. > > Why are you arguing with a lawyer?
I wasn't trying to argue with you. You said: > A lot of good words for them. HOWEVER: IMHO, the opt out model is > insufficient and unacceptable. Another signal. > > Too many "white hats." Some try to justify their stuff in their > whois/RDAP remarks. Some have some sort of TOKEN there. No idea > what it is. If someone cares to explain, I am curious. But it is > curiosity only. I tried to fulfill your curiosity. If not for that bit, I probably wouldn't have bothered to explain in detail what ShadowServer is. > My [server|inbox], my rules. Of course. (snip) Yes, you are free to block them at the firewall. > (f) they seem to be getting privacy somewhat right: "need to know." > indeed they do not need to know what I operate on my subnet; nor do > their other partners and whomever they distribute their reports to. IMHO you are focusing too much on them. The actual question should be if what you operate on your subnet is publicly listed/exposed or not. > free-of-charge is not the same as no cost. and I see no cost/benefit > in > being coerced to participate in their activity. > > > > They also operate honeypots and routinely collaborates with > > takedowns > > of malicious infrastructure, such as the recent AudiA6 > > cryptolaundering > > takedown by europol: > > https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/ransomware-gangs-cut-eur-336-million-audia6-crypto-laundering-pipeline > > (g) good for them. probably someone finds their public service is > useful. > not a reason to override my preference for not being scanned. > I wish them luck. and I wish them to understand to stay away where > they > have not been invited. nobody asks you to. In my experience, they do make a difference and they make the internet a better place. I cannot say tht of many other "researchers" scanning the internet. But obviously, YMMV. And that's fine as well. Regards >
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