* Otto J. Makela <[email protected]>:
> On 02/10/2026 14.49, Hans-Martin Mosner wrote:
> 
> > Nice, thanks for the good work! Good to see that DKIM and DMARC are set
> > up, too.
> 
> This is something I've been meaning to bring up: is it time for
> mailing lists to stop adding subject tagging, since it breaks naive
> DKIM signing? For example, Hans-Martin's message did not verify for me.

There have been very opinionated wars on this where one group would say that
messaging evolves and people should adopt to changes required to keep DKIM and
DMARC in tact whereas others insist new technology must not break old things.
Please lets not start a war on this mailing list.

DKIM2 has been said to be mailing list safe and maybe that's the way out: wait
until it is being used to sign mailing list messages and switch from SPF,
DKIM, DMARC to DKIM2 as fast as possible.


> Yes, I know, there are ARC signatures too, and yes, I see this
> list does support those. However the IETF conclusion on ARC was that
> in the end it did not solve the problems it was created to solve, and
> that implementers and operators should not rely on ARC going forward.
> 
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-adams-arc-experiment-conclusion-00.html

ACK. ARC is about to be deprecated (on this list) soon.

p@rick


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