Something about the Controller (also sometimes called Control) editor
doesn't flow for me, so when I want to use it I always have to revisit the
documentation to refresh my memory to get familiar with it again. It may be
simply that I got so used to using the way that Sequencer Plus did this that
my brain doesn't want to reprogram itself to do things a different way.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> James Bowden
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:37 PM
> To: QWS list
> Subject: Re: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Just to add to the mix: about entering Control Change messages, you can
> either use the Controller Editor, or the Event List.
> 
> There seems to be some doubt about how to use the Controller Editor, so
> just to clarify, it's almost exactly the same as the Note Editor,
> except you won't hear notes as you cursor onto events. The most
> important thing to remember, especially if using a screen reader, is to
> check the status bar.
> The other navigation keys and operation are pretty much the same as the
> Note Editor. In addition, use the N key and then Enter, to select which
> event number you want to edit. Do that first.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> James.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Fritz - Mr Music" <[email protected]>
> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 6:11 AM
> Subject: Re: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> 
> 
> > Thanks so much for all your help Nicole. I'll try this as son as I
> can get
> > my keyboard connected to my pc again.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nicole Massey
> > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 4:10 PM
> > To: QWS list
> > Subject: RE: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> >
> > Okay, then you can re-map your bitch bender to send the data entry
> slider
> > data you need in QWS. It allows you separate controllers for pitch
> bend up
> > from center and pitch bend down from center, so this is helpful.
> > No ramp up and down? That's unfortunate, as that's one of the most
> > indicative aspects of a rotary speaker simulator.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of
> >> David Fritz - Mr Music
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 1:59 AM
> >> To: QWS list
> >> Subject: Re: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> >>
> >> Hi Nicole
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for all your help. I think it's a switch type
> control,
> >> because when I play the keyboard and I select a fast rotary speaker,
> it
> >> comes on immediately, it doesn't wind up like a real rotary speaker,
> >> and if I'm playing with a fast rotary and the select a slow rotary,
> it
> >> goes from fifth gear to first in a millisecond, there's not slowing
> >> down, so I think it's a switch.
> >>
> >> Secondly, the keyboard has a pitch bed wheel, one of those which has
> a
> >> set
> >> (stuck) middle position, and then you can push it up from there, has
> >> like a spring/resistance level, or you can pusth it down with a
> >> spring/resistance.
> >> Hope you understand what I mean. The wheel is alwys in the middle
> and
> >> you have to push it up or down, for pitch bend and it moves an inch
> or
> >> so with ah spring action.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nicole Massey
> >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 6:49 PM
> >> To: QWS list
> >> Subject: RE: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> >>
> >> Okay, does it have any kind of wheel or slider at all that can send
> >> MIDI data? If not then you're going to have to just try values for
> >> controller 6.
> >> Start with 64, then if that doesn't work try 96 and 127.
> >> The big question is if it's a switch type control or a continuous
> value
> >> type.
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf
> >> > Of David Fritz - Mr Music
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:08 AM
> >> > To: QWS list
> >> > Subject: Re: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> >> >
> >> > Hi Nicole
> >> >
> >> > Nearly there,!!!
> >> >
> >> > Thanks so much for this - this is the procedure, telling me which
> >> > controller numbers to use with which value, which I was looking
> for.
> >> >
> >> > But: my keyboard doesn't have a modulation wheel...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Nicole Massey
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 4:29 PM
> >> > To: QWS list
> >> > Subject: RE: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> >> >
> >> > Okay, here's what I would do.
> >> > First, read the manual about the control editor. I'm not going to
> >> walk
> >> > you through the specific steps you need to do that, because it's
> >> > already there.
> >> > There may be an audio tutorial on this too, so check the QWS site.
> >> > Pick where you want to insert the parameter change, and start
> there.
> >> > I'm assuming they did the right thing and used NRPN values for
> this,
> >> > so we'll go from that assumption.
> >> > At your first insertion point enter controller 99 with a value of
> 99.
> >> > At the next insertion point enter a controller number of 98 and a
> >> > value of 1. Exit the control editor.
> >> > Now comes the interesting part. Go into QWS and remap the
> modulation
> >> > wheel, controller 1, to controller 6, data entry. I'm going to
> assume
> >> > they're not using an MSB/LSB pair here, but they may, so this gets
> a
> >> > lot harder if they do. Back up the sequence before your control
> >> change
> >> > and start it. When you hit your control change point move the
> >> > modulation wheel up. You should hear a point where the rotary
> speaker
> >> > effect kicks in. It may be gradual or it may be a switch. Make a
> note
> >> > of approximately where the wheel is in its sweep, and either
> >> > extrapolate that to a value you enter in the Control Editor or
> just
> >> > record the value into the track. I'd suggest doing this on a
> separate
> >> > track so you can scrub it if you need to, and also so you can copy
> >> the
> >> > data into other tracks instead of going through this all over
> again.
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >> Behalf
> >> > > Of David Fritz - Mr Music
> >> > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 8:03 AM
> >> > > To: QWS list
> >> > > Subject: Re: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> >> > >
> >> > > This is exactly my problem - in the dsp data sheet there are
> only
> >> > > these values I gave you, namely a msb, a lsb and a bank which
> works
> >> > > out to msb times 128 plus lsb.
> >> > >
> >> > > That's why I'm stuck - where/how in qws do I enter these values
> to
> >> > > invoke this effect?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Nicole Massey
> >> > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:58 PM
> >> > > To: QWS list
> >> > > Subject: RE: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> >> > >
> >> > > Okay, you're going to want to go into the manual and familiarize
> >> > > yourself with how to use the Control Editor to input this in.
> >> > > Another option is to re-map the pitch bend wheel a few times to
> >> > > record it on the track.
> >> > > However, you're missing a piece or two of information. I'm
> assuming
> >> > > this is an NRPN command. This means you still need values for
> the
> >> > data
> >> > > entry on how you get it happening. That will involve either
> >> > controller
> >> > > 6 or a combination of controller 6 and 38, depending on if they
> are
> >> > > using high definition data entry values.
> >> > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >> > Behalf
> >> > > Of
> >> > > > David Fritz - Mr Music
> >> > > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 7:50 AM
> >> > > > To: QWS list
> >> > > > Subject: Re: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> >> > > >
> >> > > > That's what they put in the documentation, and if I use the
> >> > formula,
> >> > > > msb times 128 plus lsb I get the same bank number as they
> give,
> >> > > namely
> >> > > > 12673...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: Nicole Massey
> >> > > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:37 PM
> >> > > > To: QWS list
> >> > > > Subject: RE: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You sure the LSB is 1?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> >> > > Behalf
> >> > > > > Of David Fritz - Mr Music
> >> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 7:33 AM
> >> > > > > To: QWS list
> >> > > > > Subject: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi Friends
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Please help!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I use a Yamaha DGX-640 with QWS.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I have an organ track, set to use a stock organ sound.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > My keyboard has several effects, such as a rotary speaker
> >> effect
> >> > > > which
> >> > > > > can be added to a tone.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Given that the msb is 99 and the lsb is 1 and the bank is
> >> 12673,
> >> > > how
> >> > > > > do I activate (insert) the effect on my track please?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > David
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
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