From what I remember of the days of cheap Yamaha PSR keyboards, it's an on/off with a set spin up/down for the roto. So, it doesn't just cut from slow to fast, but you can't change any aspect of it.

On 7/11/2015 10:10 AM, Nicole Massey wrote:
Okay, then you can re-map your bitch bender to send the data entry slider
data you need in QWS. It allows you separate controllers for pitch bend up
from center and pitch bend down from center, so this is helpful.
No ramp up and down? That's unfortunate, as that's one of the most
indicative aspects of a rotary speaker simulator.

-----Original Message-----
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David Fritz - Mr Music
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 1:59 AM
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Hi Nicole

Thanks so much for all your help. I think it's a switch type control,
because when I play the keyboard and I select a fast rotary speaker, it
comes on immediately, it doesn't wind up like a real rotary speaker,
and if I'm playing with a fast rotary and the select a slow rotary, it
goes from fifth gear to first in a millisecond, there's not slowing
down, so I think it's a switch.

Secondly, the keyboard has a pitch bed wheel, one of those which has a
set
(stuck) middle position, and then you can push it up from there, has
like a spring/resistance level, or you can pusth it down with a
spring/resistance.
Hope you understand what I mean. The wheel is alwys in the middle and
you have to push it up or down, for pitch bend and it moves an inch or
so with ah spring action.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole Massey
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 6:49 PM
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Subject: RE: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track

Okay, does it have any kind of wheel or slider at all that can send
MIDI data? If not then you're going to have to just try values for
controller 6.
Start with 64, then if that doesn't work try 96 and 127.
The big question is if it's a switch type control or a continuous value
type.

-----Original Message-----
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Of David Fritz - Mr Music
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:08 AM
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Hi Nicole

Nearly there,!!!

Thanks so much for this - this is the procedure, telling me which
controller numbers to use with which value, which I was looking for.

But: my keyboard doesn't have a modulation wheel...


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole Massey
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 4:29 PM
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Okay, here's what I would do.
First, read the manual about the control editor. I'm not going to
walk
you through the specific steps you need to do that, because it's
already there.
There may be an audio tutorial on this too, so check the QWS site.
Pick where you want to insert the parameter change, and start there.
I'm assuming they did the right thing and used NRPN values for this,
so we'll go from that assumption.
At your first insertion point enter controller 99 with a value of 99.
At the next insertion point enter a controller number of 98 and a
value of 1. Exit the control editor.
Now comes the interesting part. Go into QWS and remap the modulation
wheel, controller 1, to controller 6, data entry. I'm going to assume
they're not using an MSB/LSB pair here, but they may, so this gets a
lot harder if they do. Back up the sequence before your control
change
and start it. When you hit your control change point move the
modulation wheel up. You should hear a point where the rotary speaker
effect kicks in. It may be gradual or it may be a switch. Make a note
of approximately where the wheel is in its sweep, and either
extrapolate that to a value you enter in the Control Editor or just
record the value into the track. I'd suggest doing this on a separate
track so you can scrub it if you need to, and also so you can copy
the
data into other tracks instead of going through this all over again.

-----Original Message-----
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Of David Fritz - Mr Music
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 8:03 AM
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Subject: Re: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track

This is exactly my problem - in the dsp data sheet there are only
these values I gave you, namely a msb, a lsb and a bank which works
out to msb times 128 plus lsb.

That's why I'm stuck - where/how in qws do I enter these values to
invoke this effect?


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole Massey
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:58 PM
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Subject: RE: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track

Okay, you're going to want to go into the manual and familiarize
yourself with how to use the Control Editor to input this in.
Another option is to re-map the pitch bend wheel a few times to
record it on the track.
However, you're missing a piece or two of information. I'm assuming
this is an NRPN command. This means you still need values for the
data
entry on how you get it happening. That will involve either
controller
6 or a combination of controller 6 and 38, depending on if they are
using high definition data entry values.

-----Original Message-----
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Of
David Fritz - Mr Music
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 7:50 AM
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That's what they put in the documentation, and if I use the
formula,
msb times 128 plus lsb I get the same bank number as they give,
namely
12673...

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole Massey
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:37 PM
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Subject: RE: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track

You sure the LSB is 1?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
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Of David Fritz - Mr Music
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 7:33 AM
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Subject: QWS List Inserting dsp effect in a track

Hi Friends

Please help!

I use a Yamaha DGX-640 with QWS.

I have an organ track, set to use a stock organ sound.

My keyboard has several effects, such as a rotary speaker
effect
which
can be added to a tone.

Given that the msb is 99 and the lsb is 1 and the bank is
12673,
how
do I activate (insert) the effect on my track please?

Thanks

David


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