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At 04:00 PM 12/10/2009, David Bradbury wrote:
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James Enterline wrote:
At 04:50 PM 12/9/2009, David Bradbury wrote:
Assuming that the McCrone and Brown/Clark analyses did not mysteriously select freakishly anomalous sampling locations, I'd have to ask why, despite the wide variety of analytical techniques used, there have been no reports of the significant quantities of tannic acid you would expect to find in the Vinland Map ink if Jim Enterline's theory is correct.

The answer may simply be that nobody has done a determinative test for tannic acid.
Both FTIR and Raman spectroscopy, which have been used on the Vinland Map ink, are theoretically able to do the job, but neither of the analysts responsible reported relevant peaks.

This may be simply because neither were looking for such peaks. This is the whole reason I keep saying that someone should do my experiment with a more open mind. Farther on this right below.


Ever since the McCrones announced that the binder looked like early titanium paint, everyone has assumed that it is.
That's slightly unfair. In 1974 they merely announced that the ink contained a high concentration of anatase particles in an unknown organic binder. Although they speculated that it seemed similar to alkyd resin, which is indeed a 20th century paint binder, it was not until Walter McCrone applied FTIR in the 1990s that he was able to make a fairly confident statement, namely that the binder appeared to be based on gelatin made from skin.

Indeed, McCrone's confidence in that statement seems more justified by spectroscopy than some other grandstanding of his. However, his allusion to it as "the binder" is an assumption for which Olin provides an alternative, that ii results from hydrolysis of the parchment collagen in situ. Furthermore it is still not determinative between tannin and gelatin for the following reason: His published spectrum (Fig. 3 in his 1999 paper) is cut off at the left just before one would expect the peaks (dips) for tannin at 0.254 and 0.280 microns. It would be interesting to know if his unpublished raw data includes any points in that neighboring region. The Brown & Clark graph has a corresponding vacuum at its right edge where tannin might appear.
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The problem for Jacqueline Olin's theory is the genuinely freakish ratio of titanium to iron (resulting from both a surplus of titanium and a shortage of iron, relative to known iron gall inks) in the Vinland Map ink in situ.

The relative shortage of iron is obviously explained by the Enterline scenario. And the surplus of titanium is explainable by my (or other) transfer scenarios
No it isn't. There's too much titanium underneath the surviving parts of the black layer of the ink.

Who's to say how much is too much? The bleaching / transfer I suggested would leave the temporarily re-fluidized ink vulnerable to lateral transfer of anatase under any black film from mechanical action of the applying brush (as well as diffusion). Furthermore, this episode could introduce a new plausibility for Olin's and Cahill's ink-separation hypothesis. Carbon in the original ink, now fluidized in an alkaline environment, might ball up toward the center of the line. The rare examples of mis-registration of the black layer could have been caused by shear forces when the bleach brush swept a bubble aside. When everything dries out, any anatase deposited on the plain parchment could fall off and the carbon could begin flaking away.

In any case, McCrone's tale of a forger sitting down and painfully retracing, almost perfectly, a map he had just painfully fabricated is too much to swallow. It is too circular in motivation. The conclusion of forgery surely came before the hypothesis of retracing. And even before he could have lifted a pen, the forger had to sit down and dope out the Latin cryptograms he was going to incorporate into the inscriptions, an art not practiced since the middle ages. And to what end nowadays?

Jim Enterline
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