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In "The Grand Tour and After (1660-1840)," James Buzzard quotes William Wetmore Story and gives as his source (pg. 52, n. 32) Wetmore's Roba di Roma, 2nd ed (London: Chapman & Hall, 1863) vol. 1, pg. 7. Buzzard's chapter appears in Peter Hulme and Tim Young, The Cambridge Companion to Travel Writing (Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 2002).

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Dan

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   1. Re: Looking for advice (Kamil Nie?cioruk)
   2. Wetmore Story - source of quote (Dahl Ed)
   3. Re: Panorama of Rome and Vienna by
      J.F.Probst(J.WolffHeirs)-an ask (Helen Glazer)
   4. RE: Re: Wetmore Story - source of quote ([email protected])
   5. Re: Wetmore Story - source of quote ([email protected])
   6. Re: Wetmore Story - source of quote (Dee Longenbaugh)
   7. Re: Wetmore Story - source of quote ([email protected])


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 13:31:29 +0200
From: Kamil Nie?cioruk <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MapHist] Looking for advice
To: Discussion group for map history <[email protected]>
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Hello,

 Does anyone have any ideas about where my talents might be appreciated?
Welcome to the club :).
I can advice you browsing post-doc positions on history or research vacancies dealing with collection/geographic region. The post-doc or vacancy on history of cartography is very rare phenomenon...
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:41:58 -0400
From: Dahl Ed <[email protected]>
Subject: [MapHist] Wetmore Story - source of quote
To: Discussion group for map history <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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I sent this information below to Kit Batten earlier today and asked
that he post it on
MapHist if it is the correct source, but have not seen his posting, so
am posting it
to the list so that others don't duplicate my search.  Ed

*****

... I put this into Google, in quotes -- "Murray for information, and
a Byron for sentiment"
-- and that appears to come from The Atlantic Monthly, vol. 3, 1859,
p. 457....
          Ed

See:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=fbEGAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA457&lpg=PA457&dq=%22Murray+for+information,+and+a+Byron+for+sentiment%22&source=bl&ots=U0eEOteiNu&sig=p8d4LUNve6dQTj3tcHR_Xt-nsSg&hl=en&ei=oTjgS8meK4L68Ab7oLHCBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAw#v
=onepage&q=%22Murray%20for%20information%2C%20and%20a%20Byron%20for
%20sentiment%22&f=false

P.S. The quotation may also be properly cited in this article, but
that would take a longer search.

        >  http://www.jstor.org/pss/3827763

Ed Dahl, 720, chemin Fogarty, Val-des-Monts (QuÈbec) J8N 7S9, CANADA
      TEL: (819) 671-9721   FAX: (819) 671-9722
        [email protected]


On May 4, 2010, at 4:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:

I am doing an introduction on a cartobibliography of guide book maps
for DEvon in England. I have come across a lovely quote but the only
source I have is Wikipedia. Does anyone know where it is from:

As William Wetmore Story, an American art critic and editor, is quoted
as saying in the 1860s: Every Englishman abroad carries a Murray for
information, and a Byron for sentiment, and finds out by them what he
(or she) is to know and feel by every step.

many thanks

Kit

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 14:54:32 -0400
From: Helen Glazer <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MapHist] Panorama of Rome and Vienna by
        J.F.Probst(J.WolffHeirs)-an ask
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Hi George,

FYI this caught my eye on MapHist re: Werner panoramic maps:

On 4/16/10 3:04 PM, "Michael Ritter" <[email protected]> wrote:

 Moreover Dr. Angelika Marsch from Hamburg is preparing a complete
 bibliography of all the hundreds of views made by Werner. This fantastic
 book (more than 700 pages) will be published in about two or three months.
 She knows several copies and all the different states of the views, too.



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George Glazer Gallery
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Antique Globes, Maps & Prints
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 07:45:47 -0400
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [MapHist] Re: Wetmore Story - source of quote
To: [email protected]
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I found the quote cited any number of places on line, but it also appears
in the Google Books offering of William Wetmore Story's work "Roba di Roma,
Vol. 1"  It's toward the bottom of page 5, that page bearing the title
"Entrance to Rome."

Bert Johnson

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Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 22:31:37 +0000
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From: Dahl Ed <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:41:58
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Subject: [MapHist] Wetmore Story - source of quote

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 17:20:59 -0800
From: Dee Longenbaugh <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MapHist] Wetmore Story - source of quote
To: Discussion group for map history <[email protected]>
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But if you put in his name plus "guide books" that quotation shows up in various sources.
Dee
On May 4, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Dahl Ed wrote:

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I sent this information below to Kit Batten earlier today and asked that he post it on MapHist if it is the correct source, but have not seen his posting, so am posting it
 to the list so that others don't duplicate my search.  Ed

 *****

... I put this into Google, in quotes -- "Murray for information, and a Byron for sentiment" -- and that appears to come from The Atlantic Monthly, vol. 3, 1859, p. 457....
 >     Ed

 See:

http://books.google.ca/books?id=fbEGAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA457&lpg=PA457&dq=%22Murray+for+information,+and+a+Byron+for+sentiment%22&source=bl&ots=U0eEOteiNu&sig=p8d4LUNve6dQTj3tcHR_Xt-nsSg&hl=en&ei=oTjgS8meK4L68Ab7oLHCBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22Murray%20for%20information%2C%20and%20a%20Byron%20for%20sentiment%22&f=false

P.S. The quotation may also be properly cited in this article, but that would take a longer search.

        >  http://www.jstor.org/pss/3827763

 Ed Dahl, 720, chemin Fogarty, Val-des-Monts (QuÈbec) J8N 7S9, CANADA
      TEL: (819) 671-9721   FAX: (819) 671-9722
        [email protected]


 On May 4, 2010, at 4:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:

I am doing an introduction on a cartobibliography of guide book maps for DEvon in England. I have come across a lovely quote but the only source I have is Wikipedia. Does anyone know where it is from:

As William Wetmore Story, an American art critic and editor, is quoted as saying in the 1860s: Every Englishman abroad carries a Murray for information, and a Byron for sentiment, and finds out by them what he (or she) is to know and feel by every step.

 many thanks

 Kit

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 01:35:12 EDT
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MapHist] Wetmore Story - source of quote
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Many thanks to all those who answered my query.

THe quote would seem to come from:

The Atlantic Monthly, vol. 3, 1859, p.  457....


Google does seem to vary depending on what country you are operating from.
I did put the complete quote into Google but received only a handful of
hits  with a maessage that other hits had been rejected as simply repeats. ALL
the  quotes found were simply Wikipedia or quoting the Wikipedia source.

I have also had two occasions where my (German) Google network has found
hits for a topic (the blunders of our Foreign Minister, Guido Westerwelle)
but  omitted the particular hit I was looking for. (It does look for hits in
all  languages, not just German.) However, I received a pop-up message that
not all  hits had been displayed and did I want to use a different system.
This had the  effect of opeining up a second window displaying hits from
google.de alongside  hits from google.com. And, guesss what? The hit I was
looking for was  displayed.

 I realise I should have ignored google.de for this hit and gone to
google.com instead.
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