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Don, the answer is important enough to reply to the entire list.

According to U.S. copyright law any creative work is copyrighted as soon as it is fixed in some tangible form -- so a photograph is copyrighted as soon as it is taken. A photograph of a map or other form of graphic may, however, be considered a derivative work which (unfortunately) is also covered under copyright law. Anyone wanting to publish a photograph of an original work may or may not need to obtain permission of the owner to the rights of the original work to publish the photograph. The law is very fuzzy on this point.

Older works are generally in the public domain -- but nowadays it takes a ridiculously long time for a work to pass into the public domain under U.S. law -- which has tended to abuse the founders' intent that exclusive right to a work of art or invention shall be LIMITED. (Over the past 120 years or so, we have repeatedly extended the term of copyright so that it lasts nearly a century beyond the life of the author, whereas patent rights were extended to something like -- gasp! -- 17 years.)

If you want to publish a photograph of a 300-year-old map, don't use a flash, but you should be able to publish the photograph without any copyright concerns. (Even under European law, copyright doesn't last forever, although it might as well given the lunatic length of copyright terms there.) You cannot (well, should not) publish someone else's photograph of that same work. Fair use does come into play here, but I really don't want to go there.

Dave

On 11/28/2010 9:31 AM, Donald Mcguirk wrote:
David,

I was interested in your responce on maphist. By your comment did you mean that 
an image is copyrighted to the date of its first creation (ex. a map dated 1700 
is copyrighted at 1700) or that a photo reproduction of that 1700 map is 
copyrighted to the date that the photo was created? Thanks in advance for your 
clarification.

Don McGuirk


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There is no general practice to consider here.  In the U.S., at least, an image is 
considered copyrighted  as soon as it is created -- that's the law, not 
"practice."

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   A few years back, there was a question on this list about copyright of 
reproductions/photographs of maps obviously in the public domain.  The upshot 
was in US copyright law, photographs and some other reproductions of graphic 
works are considered to be new artistic creations and the copyright is claimed 
on them, not on the original graphic work.  I haven’t looked at all that 
many websites with maps on them and was wondering if there is any sense if most 
claim copyright of their contents.  This is not the same as “copy 
protection� which attempts to keep the images from being downloaded and is a 
technical thing, not a legal thing.  Even if a site allows free downloading, 
it could still claim a copyright, even if only a general one for the site 
itself, intended as a blanket for the contents.  Any sense on the general 
practice?Â

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JBP

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