This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying to the 
whole list)
o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o +

Again without citations, but I would suggest all of the above. As well as someone reported that they had seen these features, who were either mistaken or spinning a yarn. As to the "Great Southern Continent", there was a theory that the amount land north of the equator had to balance the amount south. It is wrong, but it was a theory. (We should not make the mistake often made about for example Newton and alchemy. The fools who like to point out how Newton could at the same time be the great scientist with mechanics but be non-scientific about alchemy. Chemistry is a much harder problem than mechanics. Newton was a very careful experimenter. Given how stable manyu compounds are, figuring out what is "elemental" is a very hard problem. Alchemy is simply theory that didn't work out. Not as superstitious silliness. Looking at the problem from our perspective is a worse error. Lead can be changed into gold. It just requires a particle accelerator! And Newton was a long way from being able to build one!) ;-)

Look how long copies of Durer's rhinoceros continue to appear!

As to maps, it was pointed out to me early in exposure to maps that the "fanciful monsters" on maps like Ortelius' map of Iceland are the result of trying to draw a picture from a bad translation of a good description of a real species observed.

There are maps of North America with a large inland sea in the upper northwest. Not there in historic times but there was one there. Was this based on information from the local Indians that represented knowledge passed down from the time of the ice ages when it was there?

So are these myths? or are they bad data? We should not be too quick to speak light of what people did with less than perfect knowledge.


This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying to the whole list)
o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o +

Hello,

know otherwise. Or did these cartographers simply put in what looked good and plausible, making such 'maps 'more like >paintings. What was in the cartographer's mind as he drew such things, artistic licence, or copying what he thought >was really there?

We should keep in mind what the cartography (or early cartography) was. We know maps with a little detailed Antarctic, put there just because theoretical deliberations led to the statement that there is a need for a land down there. We also have maps like you've mentioned, originated probably from these more scientific images and just depicting some "why-not-like-this" world. One thing also to remember is that early cartographers depicted not only measurable space, but also ideas. For example "OT" maps which show conception of space instead of this space itself. All this imagined lands (drowing land, why not to draw trees and rivers on it?) are somewhere between measured facts and ortodoxic ideas.
That's somewhat general impression, without citations to prove it :).

Regards,
Kamil NieÊcioruk
--
 __________________________________________________________
| Kamil Niescioruk
| www.kamilniescioruk.prv.pl


_______________________________________________
MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography
hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht.
The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of
the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of
Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for
the views of the author.
List Information: http://www.maphist.nl

Maphist mailing list
[email protected]
http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/maphist

_______________________________________________
MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography
hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht.
The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of
the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of
Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for
the views of the author.
List Information: http://www.maphist.nl

Maphist mailing list
[email protected]
http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/maphist

Reply via email to