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Hillary, They are Belgian, the list from Joost refereed to basic scales, i.e. the scale of the original survey. The Belgians published at 1:20,000, 1:40,000 and 1:100,000 during the time period that the maps you have were published. Wheeler (1885) and the U.S. Army publication 'Foreign Maps' (1963) are both good English language sources on map scales for the period. Belgium switched to 1:25,000 after WWII. Peter Collier In a message dated 29/04/2011 10:24:53 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying to the whole list) o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + Hi George, They look Belgian - the inscription at the bottom of the Anvers one says "Leve et nivele en 1863...Redige et grave in 1889...Equidistance de 5 metres Revu sur le terrain en 1879 et 1892 Zincographie a l'Institut cartographique militaire, octobre 1893" Also "mise a jour en 1892-1894" and "Grave par J B De La hoese, J Ongers, F Deraedemacker et V Labarge It has a small blue sticker on the basck indicating it's no.15 in a series. Another odd feature is its folding, with the key, scale, folded off at the bottom (it doesn't look like its bene re-folded. Odder still,it has no boundary on any but the south...the map goes all the way to the edge of the paper (as if some of the map is missing...but the blue sticker indicates all the map is there). The Bruges map (no.13) has the dame features, slightly different years. The Bruges map includes a small;portion of 'Pays Bas' - greyed out and de-coloured. Dr Hillary Shaw School of Business, Management and Marketing Harper Adams University College Newport Shropshire TF10 8NB -----Original Message----- From: George Carhart <[email protected]> To: Discussion group for map history <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:53 Subject: Re: [MapHist] Belgian 1;40,000 map scales This is a MapHist list message (when you hit 'reply' you're replying to the whole list) o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + o + Hi Hillary, Just one quick question: as Joost notes in his list of Belgian maps there are no 1:40,000 maps, are you certain that your two maps are of Begian origin? The German army had 1:40,000 topographic maps of Belgium in 1940 and may also have had similar maps in 1914. I do not know the origin of the German maps, but the German 1:200,000 Army General Staff maps for France from 1940, have a grid that indicates that they had a 1:40,000 map series for Belgium and a 1:80,000 map series for France. I hope that this is of some help. George Dr.phil. George S. Carhart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Apr 28, 2011 3:34 PM To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Subject: [MapHist] Belgian 1;40,000 map scales I have a selection of medium scale sheet maps from various countries, analogous to the UK's O/Smaps at 1;50,000, 1;25,000. Almost all these sheet maps are at 'conventional' scales - 1;100,000, 1;50,000, 1;25,000. Except for a couple of Belgian maps - Anvers 1893, and Bruges and S E, 1913, both at 1;40,000. Anyone know why Belgium alone chose this unusual scale, or do I just need to get out to more 2nd hand map shops? Hillary Shaw Newport Shropshire Dr.phil. George S. Carhart _______________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: _http://www.maphist.nl_ (http://www.maphist.nl/) Maphist mailing list [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) _http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/maphist_ (http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/maphist) _______________________________________________ MapHist: E-mail discussion group on the history of cartography hosted by the Faculty of Geosciences, University of Utrecht. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Utrecht. The University of Utrecht does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. List Information: http://www.maphist.nl Maphist mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/maphist
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