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20th Century Playing Card Map:
During WWII, British Intelligence-notably Clayton Hutton, arranged
with Bicycle Playing cards to create special decks where by Prisoners of War
could steam individual cards thus separating the face from the back. In
between were two side of the map, such when re-assembled (all the deck)
would make a full sized map of whatever area that particular deck entailed.
In 1990, or so, Bicycle Playing Card company made a PoW Anniversary poster
showing an arrangement of such card assembled as the map. Once in a while,
these posters will show themselves on eBay. If you want more information
about how British Intelligence secreted maps, during WWII, I strongly
encourage you to pick up a copy of either the US release "Official Secret"
or the UK release "Hidden Catch." I have both edition, from 1960-the only
printing, and they are NOT the same.
John Rado
Cloth Map Researcher and Collector
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3. RE: Playing Cards assembled into a map (Barber, Peter)
4. Re: Playing Cards assembled into a map (Joel Kovarsky)
5. RE: Playing Cards assembled into a map (Barber, Peter)
6. Re: Playing Cards assembled into a map (Ovidiu Sandor)
7. Digitising manuscript maps of Korea (Tony Campbell)
8. Re: Playing Cards assembled into a map (Judith Tyner)
9. RE: Playing Cards assembled into a map (Fleet, Christopher)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:01:17 +0200
From: "Geert Bekkering" <[email protected]>
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In my 2004 German book on the history of the jigsaw puzzle (Spass und
Geduld), I could claim that the geographical jigsaw puzzle is not invented
by John Spilsbury of Londen c. 1760. Though John Spilsbury might have been
the first commercial user of this idea, predecessors used wooden maps: a
map, pasted to a thin board and cut along the boundaries to serve in
(private) teaching of geography.
There even must have been playing cards, that could be assembled into a map.
Rumor has it, that on a 1730 map of Johann Jacob Lidl: Neu und accurate
verfasste General Post Land-Karte des sehr grossen Welt ber|hmten
Kvnig-Reichs Ungard, at the backside are printed, 80 playing cards and a
list of 80 numbered geographical places, with the explanation: speziell
angefertigt f|r Lehrer und Jugendliche (Especially produced for teachers
and youth).
Could anyone confirm this rumor and tell me the whereabouts of this map/set
of cards?
Or has anybody seen a similar set of playing cards, to be assembled into a
map, prior to 1760?
Greetings,
Geert Bekkering
[email protected]
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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:30:58 -0400
From: Joel Kovarsky <[email protected]>
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On 8/25/2011 7:01 AM, Geert Bekkering wrote:
> Could anyone confirm this rumor and tell me the whereabouts of this
> map/set of cards?
>
> Or has anybody seen a similar set of playing cards, to be assembled
> into a map, prior to 1760?
>
> Greetings,
>
> Geert Bekkering
>
> [email protected]
>
Here is the entry from "Chronicle for 1993," Author(s): Tony Campbell,
Source:_Imago Mundi_, Vol. 46 (1994), pp. 191-204,
Published by: Imago Mundi, Ltd. Stable URL:
http://www.jstor.org/stable/1151220. As noted, the date is approximate.
The entry itself is on p. 197, under "notable acquisitions" of the
British Library, although did not see the entry in a cursory search of
their existing online catalog (not all their maps are included there,
but maybe someone at the BL can comment further).
Lidl, Johann Jacob. Neu und Accurat verfasste
General Post Landkarte des sehr grossen Weltbe-
ruihmten Kvnig-Reichs Ungarn. [1739]. (On the
reverse is a precursor of the jigsaw: an engraving
reproducing the principal place-names from the
map on the recto, but with the map segments-
although numbered consecutively-actually jum-
bled up).
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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 12:36:22 +0100
From: "Barber, Peter" <[email protected]>
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I'm happy to report that the map that Geert was asking about was in the
British Library (Maps cc.6.a.9), though we now date it to c. 1750.
Best wishes
Peter Barber
This is our catalogue description:
Author - personal Lidl, Johann Jacob.
Title Neu und accurat verfaste General Post Land Karte des sehr grossen
welt beruhmten Konig Reichs Hungarn... / Johan Jacob Lidl.
Cartographic data Scale [ca. 1:1 350 000]. [1 degree latitude = 80 mm].
Publisher/year [Vienna?] : [S.n.], [ca. 1750?]
Physical descr. 1 map : hand col ; 73 x 123 cm.
General note Publication information taken from published reference.
Dedication (top left) to Domino Philippo Josepho S.R.J. Comiti ab
Harrach.
Bibliography etc. Place name index in right hand margin.
Contents 20 plans of fortifications in left hand margin.
On verso: map divided into 80 sections, whose numbers correspond to the
numbers given to place names on the index.
On verso: stamp of Herzoglicher S.Meiningischer Bibliothek.
Language note Map and dedication in Latin, title in German.
Citation/references Atlas Hungaricus: Magyarorsszalg nyomtatott
telrkelpei 1528-1850 / Szalntai Lajos. Budapest, 1996.
Subject Hungary - -- maps -- 1750.
Holdings (All) Details
Shelfmark Maps CC.6.a.9. Request
Peter Barber MA, FSA, FRHistS
Head of Cartographic and Topographic Materials
Map Library
British Library
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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:26:09 -0400
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On 8/25/2011 7:36 AM, Barber, Peter wrote:
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> I'm happy to report that the map that Geert was asking about was in the
British Library (Maps cc.6.a.9), though we now date it to c. 1750.
Based on Peter's date adjustment, and altering the spelling slightly for
the elongated "s", there also appears to be a copy at the
Vsterreichischer Bibliothekenverbund in Vienna (found via KVK catalog):
Verbund-ID-Nr. AC03811529
1.Autor/in LinkLidl, Johann Jakob
Titel LinkNeu und accurat verfasste General Post Land-Karte des ...
Kvnig-Reichs Hungarn ...
Zusatz zum Titel In sich haltend alle angrdntzende Ldnder, Geb|rge,
Stdde, Pdsse, und andere, so wohl alte, als beii gegenwdrtigen
Kriegs-Zeiten neue endeckte Merckw|rdigkeiten, mit allen Schlachten
sambt der beiigef|gten Jahrs Zahl, und anderen noch darzu gehvrigen
Nothwendigkeiten
Verfasserangabe gestochen und verlegt durch Johan Jacob Lidl
Kartograph.Angaben [Ca. 1:1 500 000]
Verlagsort S.l. [Wien]
Verlag LinkJohan Jacob Lidl
Jahr (Vorlage) s.a. [18.Jh.]
Jahr 1750
Umfangsangabe 1 Kt. auf 4 Bl.
Illustr./Techn.Ang. kol. Kupferstich
Formatangabe Gesamtgr. 124 x 75 cm
Fussnote Ma_stab in graph. Form (Milliaria Italica, Milliaria
Germanica Comunia)
1.Schlagwortkette LinkUngarn / LinkVerkehr / LinkAltkarte /
Link zum Datensatz Info http://permalink.obvsg.at/AC03811529
Bestand OeNB KartensammlungLibrary Info
Joel Kovarsky
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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:46:27 +0100
From: "Barber, Peter" <[email protected]>
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It would be worth checking to see whether the copy in Vienna has the same
verso or whether the playing card/educational element was only added
selectively.
Peter
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On 8/25/2011 7:36 AM, Barber, Peter wrote:
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> I'm happy to report that the map that Geert was asking about was in the
British Library (Maps cc.6.a.9), though we now date it to c. 1750.
Based on Peter's date adjustment, and altering the spelling slightly for
the elongated "s", there also appears to be a copy at the
Vsterreichischer Bibliothekenverbund in Vienna (found via KVK catalog):
Verbund-ID-Nr. AC03811529
1.Autor/in LinkLidl, Johann Jakob
Titel LinkNeu und accurat verfasste General Post Land-Karte des ...
Kvnig-Reichs Hungarn ...
Zusatz zum Titel In sich haltend alle angrdntzende Ldnder, Geb|rge,
Stdde, Pdsse, und andere, so wohl alte, als beii gegenwdrtigen
Kriegs-Zeiten neue endeckte Merckw|rdigkeiten, mit allen Schlachten
sambt der beiigef|gten Jahrs Zahl, und anderen noch darzu gehvrigen
Nothwendigkeiten
Verfasserangabe gestochen und verlegt durch Johan Jacob Lidl
Kartograph.Angaben [Ca. 1:1 500 000]
Verlagsort S.l. [Wien]
Verlag LinkJohan Jacob Lidl
Jahr (Vorlage) s.a. [18.Jh.]
Jahr 1750
Umfangsangabe 1 Kt. auf 4 Bl.
Illustr./Techn.Ang. kol. Kupferstich
Formatangabe Gesamtgr. 124 x 75 cm
Fussnote Ma_stab in graph. Form (Milliaria Italica, Milliaria
Germanica Comunia)
1.Schlagwortkette LinkUngarn / LinkVerkehr / LinkAltkarte /
Link zum Datensatz Info http://permalink.obvsg.at/AC03811529
Bestand OeNB KartensammlungLibrary Info
Joel Kovarsky
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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:04:30 +0300
From: Ovidiu Sandor <[email protected]>
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A number of other copies of this map have been on the market in the last
years (including one in my possession). I have seen 4 of these copies.
While a couple of these were folding maps glued on linen, the other two
copies were as printed (not glued on linen) and I have not seen any
printing on the verso.
So it must be something that was added selectively (or was added later on).
Ovidiu
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> It would be worth checking to see whether the copy in Vienna has the same
verso or whether the playing card/educational element was only added
selectively.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
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>> I'm happy to report that the map that Geert was asking about was in the
British Library (Maps cc.6.a.9), though we now date it to c. 1750.
> Based on Peter's date adjustment, and altering the spelling slightly for
> the elongated "s", there also appears to be a copy at the
> Vsterreichischer Bibliothekenverbund in Vienna (found via KVK catalog):
>
> Verbund-ID-Nr. AC03811529
> 1.Autor/in LinkLidl, Johann Jakob
> Titel LinkNeu und accurat verfasste General Post Land-Karte des ...
> Kvnig-Reichs Hungarn ...
> Zusatz zum Titel In sich haltend alle angrdntzende Ldnder, Geb|rge,
> Stdde, Pdsse, und andere, so wohl alte, als beii gegenwdrtigen
> Kriegs-Zeiten neue endeckte Merckw|rdigkeiten, mit allen Schlachten
> sambt der beiigef|gten Jahrs Zahl, und anderen noch darzu gehvrigen
> Nothwendigkeiten
> Verfasserangabe gestochen und verlegt durch Johan Jacob Lidl
> Kartograph.Angaben [Ca. 1:1 500 000]
> Verlagsort S.l. [Wien]
> Verlag LinkJohan Jacob Lidl
> Jahr (Vorlage) s.a. [18.Jh.]
> Jahr 1750
> Umfangsangabe 1 Kt. auf 4 Bl.
> Illustr./Techn.Ang. kol. Kupferstich
> Formatangabe Gesamtgr. 124 x 75 cm
> Fussnote Ma_stab in graph. Form (Milliaria Italica, Milliaria
> Germanica Comunia)
> 1.Schlagwortkette LinkUngarn / LinkVerkehr / LinkAltkarte /
>
> Link zum Datensatz Info http://permalink.obvsg.at/AC03811529
>
> Bestand OeNB KartensammlungLibrary Info
>
> Joel Kovarsky
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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:00:58 +0100
From: "Tony Campbell" <[email protected]>
Subject: [MapHist] Digitising manuscript maps of Korea
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NEW HAVEN, Conn. - Yale University's libraries are teaming with the National
Library of Korea to transform 140 volumes of rare Korean works into digital
formats.
The books, which Yale owns, date mostly from the late 18th and early 19th
centuries. They include religious, secular and official publications. Many
were donated in 1934 by a Yale alumni group in Japan.
Yale officials say making the collections accessible online will help more
people learn about the late Joseon Dynasty period, the country's final
ruling dynasty that spanned more than 500 years.
The books include manuscript maps, woodblock prints, a novel in the native
Korean script known as hangul and Confucian texts.
The National Library of Korea will include the images its online repository
with digital versions of more than 430,000 other items from 85 collections
worldwide.
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/9ea6cf1f3cd1485a951c35f0a80b898f/CT--K
orean-Books-Yale/
Tony Campbell
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Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:07:25 +0100
From: "Fleet, Christopher" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [MapHist] Playing Cards assembled into a map
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Geert,
Just to answer your second question, there were certainly earlier playing
cards that could be assembled into a map before 1760.
In 2007, the National Library of Scotland acquired a set of 37 playing
cards, based on a dissected map originally by John Adair. The original map
was engraved by James Moxon and published in Edinburgh in 1689. It is
assumed that he took the engraved plate for this map back to London with
him, as this second state was published in London by John Lenthall, ca.
1709, who specialised in selling playing cards.
I'm pasting the NLS catalogue record below - the item is still awaiting a
shelfmark:
Title: [A new map of England, part of Scotland and Ireland and adjacent
parts of France / by John Adair].
Other title(s): A new mapp of ye kingdom of England with the
adjacent coasts of France & Flanders
Author(s): Adair, John, 1660-1718.
Date(s): 1709].
Publisher: [London : William Warters & John Lenthall,
Format: Map
Size etc: 1 map (37 cards) : 1 hand col. ; each card 10 x 6 cm.
Geographic data: Scale [ca. 1:568,000]
Note: 37 cards from a set of 52 dissected from the original map, and sold
with a further 4 descriptive cards.
Relief shown pictorially.
Dissected second state of a map (48 x 57 cm.) by John Adair,
engraved by James Moxon.
Map with title "A new mapp of ye kingdom of England with the
adjacent coasts of France & Flanders" was first published in Edinburgh in
1689 ; this later state, with new title, has a London imprint.
Cards were sold uncoloured, coloured, and gilded ; hand coloured one
is from a different set.
Map was dissected into cards, marked with suits, and numbered by
hand.
Imprint information from dealer.
There are earlier playing card maps too. NLS also has a single playing card
from the "Geographisches cartenspiel von Europa", produced by Johann Hoffman
in 1678:
Title: Scotia.
Other title(s): Geographisches cartenspiel von Europa
Language note: Map text in Latin, card name in German.
Date(s): 1678].
Publisher: [Nuremberg : Johann Hoffman,
Format: Map
Size etc: 1 map : 63 x 108 mm., on card 65 x 123 mm.
Geographic data: Scale [ca. 1:9,500,000]
Note: Relief shown pictorially.
Imprint from dealer information.
One card from a set of playing cards produced by Johann Hoffman in
Nurenberg depicting the countries of Europe, entitled "Geographisches
cartenspiel von Europa" ; dated to 1678 from text volume produced to
accompany the set.
At head of card: "Die Dame" and symbol of black club.
Backed with contemporary marbled card to form a playing card.
Drawn by J.H. Seyfrid and engraved by Wilhelm Pfann, whose names
appear on the "World" card from the same set.
Consult in: Map Library (Causewayside)
Shelfmark: EMS.b.2.174(43)
Peter van der Kroght has also described and written about "The
europaeisch-Geographische spiel-charte by Franz Nigrinus and Johann
Seyfried, 1678" in MapForum 9, Spring 2006, pp.56-60.
Chris Fleet
Senior Map Curator
National Library of Scotland
159 Causewayside
EDINBURGH
EH9 1PH
United Kingdom.
Tel. 0131 623 3973
Fax. 0131 623 3971
E-mail: [email protected]
View maps website: http://maps.nls.uk
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Sent: 26 August 2011 00:27
To: Discussion group for map history; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MapHist] Playing Cards assembled into a map
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You might take a look at Jill Sheffrin's book "Such Constant Affectionate
Care" which discusses the education of the children of George III. She
agrees that Spilsbury did not invent the dissected map and has some other
suggestions.
Judith Tyner, Prof. emerita, CSU Long Beach
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From: Geert Bekkering
Sent: Aug 25, 2011 4:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MapHist] Playing Cards assembled into a map
In my 2004 German book on the history of the jigsaw puzzle (Spass und
Geduld), I could claim that the geographical jigsaw puzzle is not invented
by John Spilsbury of Londen c. 1760. Though John Spilsbury might have been
the first commercial user of this idea, predecessors used C"b,K wooden
mapsC"b,b": a map, pasted to a thin board and cut along the boundaries to
serve in (private) teaching of geography.
There even must have been playing cards, that could be assembled into a map.
Rumor has it, that on a 1730 map of Johann Jacob Lidl: Neu und accurate
verfasste General Post Land-Karte des sehr grossen Welt berCB<hmten
KCB6nig-Reichs Ungard, at the backside are printed, 80 playing cards and a
list of 80 numbered geographical places, with the explanation: C"b,E
C"b,B& speziell angefertigt fCB<r Lehrer und Jugendliche C"b,B& C"b,E
(Especially produced for teachers and youth).
Could anyone confirm this rumor and tell me the whereabouts of this map/set
of cards?
Or has anybody seen a similar set of playing cards, to be assembled into a
map, prior to 1760?
Greetings,
Geert Bekkering
[email protected]
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