Neil,
Before I start let me state that I'm not an "ESRI-ite". However, I'm still
very puzzled about your comments. Are you saying that you would rather
develop in a proprietary language (MapBasic) instead of any standard
development language of your choice (VB, Delphi, C, C++)? And before you
think it, I have programmed "Intergrated Mapping" Apps with MapInfo & VB.
You know what, it's a complete hack. Haven't you ever thought how nice it
would be if MapInfo was written in MapX? I personally give ESRI a lot of
credit for having the balls to radically change their software. It's true
that you will probably have to rewrite your Avenue code, but in my mind the
trade off of rewritting some code vs the benefits of a 100% COM based
technology are well worth it.
Everyone at MapInfo is always taunting their connection with the Oracle 8i
spatial cartridge. FYI, other GISs support it also. The next release of
GeoMedia and the rumor mill has it that the next version of Transcad (thus
probably also the next version of Maptitude) will have support for Oracle 8i
spatial cartridge. By the end of this year ESRI will more than likely
support 8i spatial without the need for SDE.
One more point. I don't really think that people complain about the MapInfo
upgrade costs...they complain that there is nothing very useful in the
upgrades. When ArcView 8 comes out I'm thinking of switching...and you know
what I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Bill Dakai
Manager of Market Research
CVS/Pharmacy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Havermale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:11 PM
Subject: MI Hmmm.... Looks like uncertain times over at ESRI?
> Saw this go over the list for ArcView. Sounds like a problem is brewing
for
> Jack's followers. And you thought you had problems with the cost of a 6.0
> upgrade?
>
> Then I also saw that AkeExploiter is now 100% JAVA based - you know that
> free AkeView "viewer" follow-on that replaced the original AkeView 1.0
> freebie. Looks like the Avenue group is either about to have to buy into
> Jack's VisualBasic thing for AkeInfo 8.0 or do JAVA?
>
> So is the "Basic" approach to mapping now vogue? I wonder what all those
> ESRI-ites sitting in front of their expensive Suns are thinking - Linux
and
> Grass, now that's an answer... I don't want no stink'in Microsoft VB
> solution on my machine.
>
> And what about JAVA for the MapInfo group? Too easy, Mate, just invest in
> MapXtream Java edition - 100% parent compliant to JAVA specs and talks to
> Oracle's 8i via their much lower cost Spatial Cartridge - SDE you got to
be
> kidding?
>
> MidNight Mapper
> aka Neil
> 6/17/00
>
> ************ CLIP **********
>
> Hi all
>
> For all of you who were wondering if Avenue has much of a future, the
> official response from Jack Dangermond himself is ----- "No Comment".
>
> Seriously, ESRI now has a site where numerous user questions are answered
by
> the owner of ESRI himself. The site is
>
> http://www.esri.com/events/uc/surveyanswers/letter_questions.html
>
> and there is a lot of information about the future of ESRI. One of the
> questions specifically is what is the future of AML and Avenue and you can
> read his response. The answer is AML will be supported in ArcInfo 8.
> That's it, no mention of Avenue. Other questions ask about migrating
> existing ArcView projects to ArcView and the response is work is ongoing
so
> that existing ArcView 3.x projects will "just work" in ArcView 8. I don't
> know what "just work" means but it doesn't sound good.
>
> More to the point, if and when we migrate to ArcView 8, all of the work,
> scripts, extensions, etc will have to be ported. I am not a VB programmer
> (yet) so I hope forums of this type can be a resource to convert Avenue to
> Visual Basic. Any ideas, suggestions, thoughts, etc. on this issue? I
> would love to see how some Avenue scripts can be done in VB to help my
> migration. There is a ton of knowledge on this forum and I hope we can
all
> utilize it during this migration process.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Bruce Rindahl
>
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