umm i am interested but have not had the experience with it
to give a definitive answer. 

1.) 4.5 is NOT going to replace MI by any means.. for one 
the labeling is always horizontal, in other words you cannot
print a usable street map.

2.) also, I understand trying to do a consistent layout for paper 
output exactly sucks (just hearsay)

3.) yet, I heard one lister refer to it as a pocket arc/info in the
sense that it has plenty of alghorithms---what they call solvers,
and built-in tools to accomplish some nice analysis...also it
has perfect import/export capability so you can use it to 
complement MI. (I'm sure you can do all this analysis in MB,
just have to get familiar with Fetch First/Next and the like..our
firm has dozens of such scripts but not always so immediately
reusable.. so in that sense learning Manifold's interface and 
quirks for doing analysis may save time compared to baking 
your own)

4.) I mentioned R4.5... they have a R5.0 slated for sometime
perhaps this year would be cool that might be worth evaluating
(note due to their funky promotional pricing I think you're still
better off buying R4.5 and then upgrading) Anyway, I'm 
definitely going to see if R5 has the goods and may invest
developing real skills in it... if nothing else for them, if their 
marketing interests users like me and if 1/3 of us cough up the
couple/few hundred bucks--pennies compared to more seats of
AV or MI--they might have the dough to pay their programmers..

just an off-the-cuff response, hope it hits the mark.. please
correct me and elaborate where I am wrong other listers...

Eric

Note: this sort of disturbs me (and still I like it) that we 
discuss other GIS's and any topic actually on this MI-list...
I just know arcview-l is moderated--they've turned down
a few of my innocuous queries about intl data--but to add
to the discussion regarding MI's marketing (I noticed 
several posts regarding their education sector efforts) couldn't
MI pony up to allow BT or anyone to sift through stuff? at 
least we would not be a prime deliver of KAK...(pun 
intended)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Maguire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 6:12 PM
Subject: MI and Manifold


> 
> Dear all,
> I recently discovered the web site for "Manifold GIS"
> http://www.manifold.net/index.html.
> Is it as good as they say?
> Has anyone out there had experience using both MI and Manifold, how do they
> compare?
> I'm trying to talk my boss into investing but he is loath to introduce another
> GIS system to the office.
> Is it worth getting to do some of the functions only MapInfo add-ons can perform
> at a considerable extra expense?
> 
> Any comments would be appreciated.
> TIA
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John Maguire
> Cartographer QNT
> 
> GPO Box 1010
> Brisbane QLD 4001, Australia
> 
> Phone: +61 7 3228 6812
> Fax:       +61 7 3228 6663
> email:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 


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