I suppose the problem with having a 'Save as older version .." option for
workspaces is that they are potentially a huge list of statements, each of
which depends on the success of the previous one, and each of which COULD
refer to a version-specific feature. If you chop out all the v6.5 specific
staments you could be left with a workspace which runs but doesn't give the
expected result.

If it were a program then you could trap the error and continue, but a
workspace isn't compiled. 

Its more like saving Excel or Word macros (VBA) for use in earlier versions
than saving a file, so probably my analogy wasn't very good. Does this work
(anyone?)

If the workspace 'reader' in MI Pro were more robust  - ie ran to completion
ignoring errors (but flagging them to you) then it would be OK. 

SUGGESTION - 

If anyone has an old copy of MapBasic they could compile a short MBX to read
a workspace file, run the statements (if possible) and continue. It could be
called "RunAnything.mbx" 

Then stick it on the Directions site and we can all include it in TOOLS.

I'd do it myself but I haven't got an old copy (honest) and as my
ex-colleagues at MI WIndsor will tell you I'm far too much of a dilletante
to actually do any work :-)


Paul Crisp
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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Dibley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 January 2002 10:52
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Subject: RE: MI-L RE: MapInfo 6.5 , 6.0 , 5.5 compatibility


Paul,

I agree with your philosophy but surely it is not beyond MapInfo to
design a system that allows you to save as an older version and
automatically removes any features in your workspace that are unique to
the newer version.

For instance in Microsoft Excel 2000 you can save as Excel 97, or
earlier.  When you do this you are told that some of the features in
your current worksheet may not be supported by the format you have
chosen blah blah blah.  That's fine.  Why can't MapInfo do this?

Richard

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Richard - 

You're always going to be running a risk using 6.5 to provide workspaces
for users on older versions of the software. Its like writing all your
reports in Office 2000 when all your colleagues have Word 6. There are
lots of features in the recent versions of the software which might
creep into your workspaces without you realising. Purely for quality
control you ought to try and ensure that you are using the same platform
as your users but then I'm a techie rather than a user :-)

You USED to be able to run more than one version of MI Pro on a PC - I'm
running 6 and 6.5 on my NT development box so it seems to work OK (but
I'm sure there will be people out there with conflict horror stories).
Otherwise try and keep a machine handy for assembling your workspaces in
the 'right' version.

HTH - probably not!

Paul Crisp
Syntegra

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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Dibley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 January 2002 09:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MI-L RE: MapInfo 6.5 , 6.0 , 5.5 compatibility


I have no problem with backwards compatibility in MapInfo regarding
opening old Workspaces.  But why oh why can't I tell MapInfo 6.5 to save
a workspace in an older workspace format?

I know I can edit the workspace in a text editor but that is, frankly, a
pain in the ass.

This has to be high on my wish list.


Richard

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Sent: 30 January 2002 21:55
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Subject: Re: MI-L RE: MapInfo 6.5 , 6.0 , 5.5 compatibility


Valued MI-L Members,

First, please let me answer the original question of compatibility:

MapInfo Professional always had and will continue to have backwards
compatibility as a high priority. To simply put this, an MBX or a WOR
that was created with an older version of MIPro should open in newer
versions of MIPro as is, no extra work needed. As of today, we don't
know of any instances where backwards compatibility was not supported.
If one finds such a case, we will regard it as a bug.

As for older versions of MIPro opening new workspaces, a quick way to
see the oldest version a workspace can be opened in is by opening the
WOR file in a text editor like Notepad and looking at the second line
called !Version. That will list the oldest version of MIPro the
workspace can be read in.

MapBasic: We have no plans to bundle MapBasic with MapInfo Professional.
Customers that are interested in simple MapBasic scripting can do this
by pasting MapBasic code in a workspace or in the MapBasic window. That
is why we bundle the MapBasic Reference Guide PDF with the MapInfo CD.
If one on the other hand wants to build UI enhancements and complex
automated routines then they will need to purchase the product. Users
that have been with us for some time now, know that we ensure that all
the major features we add to the product are exposed via MapBasic this
provides the flexibility users are requesting and the robustness we
demand from our product.


Thank you for your support,

___________________________________
Moshe Binyamin
Product Manager
MapInfo Corporation



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