Jacques - I think this is a great idea.  For those of you
who are extremely talented and proficient with MB and MIPro,
I am always grateful, and such a group will be even more
valuable when (presumably) MapInfo tapers off it's support
of the current platform.

I'm sure many appreciate, as I do, the "free" nature of all
this advice and tool collections.   Nonetheless, I want to
interject an idea that those of you who might form such a
group should consider.

Often, "free" collections/forums such as this flounder when
the driving economical force (in the case MapInfo) is not
present.  What about if you (and other founding members)
asked for a very small membership fee?  I'm thinking $5 or
$10 per year (US) - keep it very small to encourage
membership.  Then make all the tools and advice free.  The
membership fees create an incentive for the group
founders/owners to continue the support as long as there is
a market need.  If you or the founders do not want to get
into the "business management" side, perhaps you could find
someone to serve as the "director" of this organization to
keep the business case in mind.

In cases like this from business history, the vacuum left
when a platform changes can be filled as a niche by another
company - for example, GIS consulting companies will make
money by creating transitional software and supporting the
old platform.  This obviously can't go on forever, nor
should it, because the world evolves and .NET is probably a
viable future.  I am suggesting that existing businesses
will probably fill in some of the void, but that an
organization with dues can help many users as well.

I'm sure this will touch off a debate similar to Windows vs.
Linux (capitalism vs. socialism or some other such
allusion) - if you feel compelled to take this list down
that road, please save everyone's time and do not respond.
My intention is purely to offer an idea and NOT to touch off
some large-scale debate.

Thanks.

Darrin

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacques Paris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:23 AM
To: MIL
Subject: MI-L MI/MB developements


The recent wish list discussion reopened an old concern of
mine that I will
sum up to present to you and have your feed back.

1 � I am pretty convinced that MI will not put much efforts
into supporting
and developing its MI Pro beyond 7.0 in its present format.
The move to .net
structure will create a rupture in the working environment
and in the
framework for developing applications.
2 � There will be for several years many MI users who will
continue to use
versions <=7.0 because they fit their needs or because
updating to the
latest one (to come) would not be $$$ justified.
3 � There are several, not to say many, among us that have a
certain
knowledge ob MapBasic and find pleasure at building
applications or tools in
that language.
4 � The creation of new tools seems to be more in reaction
to �personal
inspirations� than in answer to some �organized coverage�
and potential
programming resources are misused with frequent duplications
and
re-inventions.
5 � Wish lists do not generally differentiate between
�internal�
improvements (achievable essentially through internal
programming) and new
�tools� that can be created as external resources. Beside,
they do not offer
follow-up to wishes


I believe that we could set up some organization to improve
on that
situation. For sake of expediency I offer an acronym:
MIP-TPF that someone
could read as MapInfo Professional � Tool Programming Forum.
I would give it
immediately the following tasks:

A � recording wishes for tools
B � establishing if no solutions already exist (and their
availability)
C � sketching specifications for new tools required
D � recording the resource who would take the responsibility
for developing
a specific tool
E � recording the progress in new tools availability

I would also consider adding later on the tasks of

F � identifying existing tools and their accessibility
G � reviewing existing tools and making recommendations to
the users and to
their authors

In order to make programming easier and more daring, I would
add some modus
operandi considerations

I � the MIP-TPF should be inspired by the terms of the
Lesser GNU General
Public (Lesser GNU General Public License page at:
http://www.fsf.org/copyleft/lesser.html). Tools produced in
that spirit will
be available with their code and be open to further
developments that should
be recorded with the MIP-TPF
II � the MIP-TPF should provide support to programming by at
least
identifying existing resources in that area; it could also
offer its own MB
resource library including all sorts of DLL�s.


I would like very much to know your reactions to this
suggestion; its
usefulness, ways to improve on it, your willingness to
participate at its
creation, at the conception of tools to support it (site
design, functioning
and management), your potential contributions as a tool
programmer, etc.
Once I am convinced there is enough support, I will start
the ball rolling
most probably by using some special list for the necessary
exchanges.

I know that you are all very busy, but there are several
among you (some
have told me so already) who have resources almost available
to share, and
occasionally some �free� time to �play�. You can answer me
directly (I will
find a way to sum up at some future date) or through the
MapInfo-L if you
think your answer can fuel some debate on the subject.

Thanks for taking the time of reading this message, and high
hopes you will
react.

Jacques Paris



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