Your suspicions are correct.  In general, there is no need to dump data into
Access files, except as a quick way of providing portability (e.g. so
someone can take a copy of a few tables on a machine which is not running
SQL Server.)

MI with SQLServer is a no-brainer.  Even if your application is written in
Access, you can point it to a SQLServer database for its data.  If your
programmers don't know how to do these things it's not because it's too
difficult for them -- it's just that they've never tried.

As to MapInfo, I suggest that you simply try yourself -- just create the
.TAB with your join, and point it to an ODBC DSN for your database.  (If you
need to create one, use ODBC Administrator, which is either on the Control
Panel or on Control Panel | Administrative tools, depending on OS.  Create a
System DSN, and make sure to use the SQL Server driver.)

BTW, there are two parts to ODBC.  The functionality supplied by the idea of
"Drivers" is critical.  It is basically a middleware interface standard
which allows many different DBMS vendors to plug in as back ends to many
different applications.  There are required calls defined, as well as
optional features which depend on the DBMS capability.

The other part is the concept of "Data Sources", which is pretty silly, even
if it's trivial.  This was defined in the early days, when MS had the idea
that totally unskilled end users could somehow manage to utilize an
application with a wide variety of different DBMS back ends, without knowing
anything about the databases themselves.  Therefore, they have this little
catalog where you can make an entry for a "Data Source", and supply all of
the parameters for a connection.  Then, in the end-user application, you
"only" need to pick the source.  Of course what that really means is that if
you wish to connect to an alternate source, you've got to go to the ODBC
Administrator function and add it, and then go back to your application and
pick it.

For this reason, most users supply the connection info directly to the
application, bypassing the Data Source business.  I'm relatively new with
MI, so I'm not sure whether you can do that in the interactive app (I'm
using integrated mapping), but either way, it's a 15-minute head-scratcher,
not a show-stopper.

Fletcher James
President
Levit & James, Inc.
 
703-771-1549
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.levitjames.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Pease [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 1:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MI-L MI and SQL Server

Hi Esteemed Listers,

I'm interested in communicating with someone who has had experience using MI
with SQL server applications. Is it possible to query data stored in an SQL
server application, directly from MI. I imagine that DBMS ODBC drivers need
to be installed to make the connection. 

We now use software that uses SQL server to store and maintain Local Gov't
data on. This software then dumps out flat tables into MS Access which the
GIS is expected to get its data from. I would much prefer to get the data
from the origin than have to uses MS Access and have to rebuild all of the
table associations which often don't work correctly along with numerous
other problems.

The software developers claim they need to dump the data out to flat MS
Access tables so that other applications, such as Crystal Reports, MapInfo
etc can access the data. This doesn't make sense to me. 

Hearing other users experiences might help sort out what I need to do.

TIA


 
Doug Pease
GIS Officer
Livingstone Shire Council
PO Box 600
Yeppoon 4703
Qld Australia
 
Ph    07 49399957
Fax   07 49393290
 

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