Mike,

I would endorse your viewpoint based on a recent EMO event. 

A major flood event in occurred in February 2004 in the lower North
Island of New Zealand - this was New Zealand's single biggest natural
disaster in terms of costs - thankfully, and somewhat amazingly no one
lost their lives.
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~floods/2004024.html <-- Some good remote
sensed images

While things kicked in at the national level with all the resources that
the State can draw on - at the local level it was a completely different
matter. 

With limited staff resources that could be applied into the GIS area,
those first days - and they were VERY long days - no-one works an eight
hour day in an Emergency Management situation - being able to call upon
outside GIS professionals would have been very beneficial - even if was
do the very simple most basic of tasks such as printing of maps and just
to assist where directed - It's all about delegation!!!

While it is important to maintain standards and to document everything
that gets done for the follow up de-brief and the learning curve that it
provides, none of that can be done if your struggling with staffing and
allocation with competing priorities.

Regards 

Blair M. Rogers


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Jenne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2005 11:15 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bagwell,Ross; Mapinfo List
Subject: [SPAM]RE: MI-L Louisiana

Brian,
That's a good answer, and I'm sure that the federal agencies will tap
into the GIS resources through the system that you describe.  On the
other hand, based on my experience working at the local level with
emergency management, there are probably plenty of State, county, and
local level agencies who would be very receptive to the helping hands
offered by Ross and Eric.  This would be particularly true in those
areas that are hard hit but outside the major population centers like
New Orleans, Gulfport, and Biloxi.  While it would probably would be
great to have GISTs that are trained to high standards available to all
these communities in need, the reality is that most of the immediate
federal assistance is going to go to those areas most prominent on the
radar (and television) screens, and that there is probably many a small
town mayor or local EMA director who would be delighted to get some
mapping assistance regardless of whether or not it met exacting federal
standards.  GIS is an incredibly powerful technology for emergency
management and disaster response, and I can't fathom any  emergency
response manager saying that they have all the GIS that they need,
especially since (as Ross and Eric obviously understand) the GIS
operators and machines don't necessarily have to be physically at the
scene to be of assistance.

Brian and Eric, regardless of whether you get an opportunity to help
out, you did the right thing by stepping up when there was a potential
need for your services.  Thanks.

Mike Jenne


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Aug 31, 2005 9:12 AM
To: "Bagwell, Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
        Mapinfo List <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: MI-L Louisiana

Hello List,

Just some FYI information.  Although there may be a need right now, this
type of info is probably being handled on the Federal Gov't end by the
Incident Management Teams that are down their to provide relief.  I
myself am a federal GIST, recognized within the resource ordering system
as one.
You would have to be a GIST within ROSS and be made "available" to help.
Even if you have years of experience, you can't just me made a GIST
because there are protocols for data collection, naming conventions,
etc. that are taught to GIST's.  There was a huge need for GIS in the
Columbia Space Shuttle response but I am not sure how much out of house
personnel was used.  That incident was managed in the same way the
Katrina response is now.  Also be aware that the federal standard for
these type incidents is ArcGIS.

I am not saying that there no chance your services might or can be used,
just making the point of what is probably going on.

On a side note, my wife is down there with a federal response team and
they have no need for GIS services on their team at this time.


Brian Van Druten
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This is good stuff, Eric.

I would definitely be willing to donate my time...

-Ross E. Bagwell
GIS Manager
Vanco USA
www.vanco.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Gagnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:37 AM
To: Mapinfo List
Subject: MI-L Louisiana


I was wondering...
Would there be any  GIS/Mapping agencies in the State of Louisiana that
would need our help.
Since they lost everything and probably don't have working computers.

Would they need some help regarding cartography, number crunching or
spatial analysis.

Maybe we could somehow lend a hand.

Just wondering.



Eric Gagnon, B.Sc., GIS Specialist


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