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I just got this from another list and even when this topic has been
discussed here I thought this may be of your interest.


¡Saludos! / Greetings!
Juan José Del Toro Madrueño
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> Dear Google
>
> Thanks indeed for officially opening APIs to Google maps. Based on the 
> volume of creativity unleashed as a result, this was clearly a great 
> idea. Thanks too, for, the public release of Google Earth, which has 
> provoked an unprecedented interest in computational models of the earth.
>
> Unfortunately there has been some inadvertant damage as a result of 
> both of these otherwise well intentioned moves. Just as it is 
> impossible to walk across a lawn without stepping on micro-organisms, 
> Google, becuase of it's size is having a potentially crushing impact 
> on a wide number of grass roots and open source geospatial computing 
> projects in two major categories, first in social mapping and locative 
> media, there have been a wide number of grass roots efforts underway 
> for the last few years, that, as a result of the publication of 
> O'Reilly's new Mapping Hacks book, many of these projects seemed at 
> the cusp of gathering a critical mass of support from the creative, 
> and open source programming communities. Among too-many projects to 
> list here, openguides, civicmaps, worldkit, pointmapper, and
openstreetmaps are fine examples.
> Now instead of trying out some amazing new open map hacks, many 
> newcomers to geospatial computing are scraping google javascripts.
> Second, Ever since White House initiatives initiatied by Vice 
> President Al Gore, there has been an enormous, mostly volunteer effort 
> for over 10 years to create a substantial infrastucture for an new 
> interoperable, planet-wide geographic information system baased on a 
> suite of open standards for exchanging geographic data including WMS ( 
> Web Map Server, WFS ( Web Feature Server) and GML, Geographic Markup 
> language. There are many notable projects including Mapserver, Geoserver,
uDig, Worldwind.
>
> The combination of grass-roots spatial hypermedia, and opensource 
> mapping might well lead to a new ecosytem of services, sometimes 
> called a geospatial web, or simply the geoweb. Now, instead, enormous 
> creative energy is pulling away into Google's essentially proprietary 
> mapping environments.
>
> Instead of competing with the grass roots, Chris Holmes, and others 
> have suggested that Google might do very well, by embracing open mapping.
> there are two examples of intrinsic challenges to open mapping posed, 
> by Google's current geospatial services.
>
> Because google maps includes proprietary data from 3rd party vendors, 
> Navteq, Teleatlas, et. al. google is constrained, -and- constraining 
> open development, by prohibiting users and developers from including 
> google map tiles freely in other service environments, expecially 
> projects like Web Map Server, and Worldwind, an open source globe 
> produced by NASA.
>
> And, because of their legacy efforts, the Keyhole team is promoting 
> their proprietary KML, Keyhole Markup Language, diverting community 
> attention from the emerging WFS/GML tools created at great time and 
> expense by the open mapping community.
>
> Many of beleive and hope that Google can be convinced to do no evil' 
> in support of an open geospatial web.
>
> How? First by agregating, and combining user created google map hack 
> layers so that the Google user hacks and data are more important than 
> the Navteq, and Teleatlas base layers. Google could continue to ride 
> the growing wave of map hacking energy by enoouraging value of 
> -agregated- user hacks and applications, Google could become less 
> dependent on private data. Google could crawl for google map hacks, 
> and build tools to combine in layers, the user data -minus proprietary
base layers.
>
> Given, Navteq and Teleatlas data IS more accurate and 'prettier' than 
> public source TIGER, and Open Streetmap data, Rich Gibson, one of the 
> authors of Mapping Hacks suggests, it would cool, and useful if Google 
> added a Tiger layer and allowed free-er. Second, by support a 
> re-engineering of Keyhole's code base to become completely 
> interoperable wiht open standards, so that users may easily import 
> standard data into Google Earth while preserving Keyhole's business 
> model of packaging premium data for high end users, like television
broadcasters.
>
> Google historically has played a monumental role in making the 
> Internet usable by gaterhing and filtering massive amounts of data. 
> Unforutantely nothing like Google exists for geospatial and 
> cartographic data on the net, which is currently almost unfindable in 
> a baroque collection of gateways, libraries, 'one-stop' portals, and 
> repositories. Google could create a great new business, while 
> providing a huge public service by searching for, indexing and 
> presenting a comprehensive access to global geospatial data.
>
> Finally, just as Google actively supports the Mozilla foundation. 
> Google could provide definitive support to the birth of an open 
> geospatial web by should by providing significant finacial support 
> underwriting many struggling, but critically important efforts like 
> openstreetmap, civicmaps, World Wind, and WMS/WFS/GML related projects 
> like mapserver, Geoserver, uDig too.
>
> If google really is right on the edge between open mapping and a 
> closed vendor driven proprietary environment it shouldn't take much to 
> move away form the 'dark' side. Google will be welcomed as a 
> tremendously helpful entity in an open software ecosystem instead of 
> leaving open mappers to the futility of trying to compete, with the 
> Google 'bulldozer in the sandbox'
>
> We hope you will receive these suggestion in the constructive spirit 
> intended, and begin right away to incorporate these ideas in your 
> development, and by making a public statement as soon as possible in 
> support of an open ecosystem for the goepspatial web.
>
> Thanks, in advance, for your kind consideration.
>
> signed:
>
> Who else wants to sign, besides me?
>
> - mike liebhold


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