Hi,

Appearently not many wants a second MapInfo-L, and I can only agree. The idea 
of adding a prefix to the subject could be a solution and it could be extended 
to cover more than just MapInfo (MI) and MapBasic (MB). For instance MapX (MX), 
MapXtreme (MXT) Routing J Server (RJS) and SpatialWare (SPW). But this is up to 
each person asking the question to remember to add this prefix. And another 
problem with this is that a not MapBasic question might result in a MapBasic 
solution using the MapBasic window, so the distinction isn't always that clear.

Now let us get back to the problem. How do we tell the users of MapInfo-L that 
the list/server is broken ? We can't for obviuos reasons use the list. And I 
guess if the list servers are down the is a huge risk that the DirectionsMag 
servers also are down. Otherwise DirectionsMag could put a message on their 
website. Another solution could be that we ask MapInfo Corp. to put a short 
message on their site. Or we could create a dedicated site like 
www.mapinfo-l.com, that could show the status of the list. This site sould also 
be used for other usefull information. But I don't see this as a replacement 
for the list. Moving the list to a web site is not an option as I see it

Just my 5 øre

Peter Horsbøll Møller
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Thoen
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:41 PM
To: MapInfo-L
Subject: [Mapinfo-l] MapInfo-L Blackout


Here's what happened. Over the last weekend, Directions Magazine upgraded their 
servers and switched from a Microsoft OS to Linux. Differences in the systems 
caused some things not to transfer smoothly, so the mailing lists went dark for 
a while. 

Did you miss it? ;-)

Anyway, we need to get a plan together for what to do when the next meltdown 
comes. The biggest problem is that when a list winks out suddenly, nobody can 
connect with anyone else to find out what's happened. Or as many of you did, 
you contact me. Not that I mind answering mail, but I'd rather there was some 
sort of news source you could check for this sort of thing. Perhaps if we set 
up a distributed, mirrored web page that carries current news, status, 
resources, etc. for the list then we'd have a way to get the word out when 
needed.

Another thing we should think about is redundancy. Right now there is only one 
host for MapInfo-L, and that's Directions Magazine. While I think they've 
generally done a great job, if they have problems, then we have problems. So if 
there are any list members with the resources and skills to bring online a 
temporary mail server in times when the primary server has gone south, we ought 
to explore that option.

Or we could set up a second list on a different server with a different focus 
that would run in parallel with the general MapInfo-L list.  Perhaps the second 
list might focus primarily on programming topics related to MapInfo while the 
orignal list would retain its user-oriented focus?  That way we'd have two 
lists running so if one fails the other can take up the load temporarily. 
Hopefully we could also find another one or two poeple to act as moderators 
too. I, too, could use some backup. I'm not immortal and I do like to take a 
vacation now and then and forget about MapInfo-L... 

So if anyone has any interesting ideas or proposals, or if you have 
opinions about any of these issues, let's kick them around and get some things 
in place before the next blackout.

- Bill Thoen
  GISnet - www.gisnet.com

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