I am not sure why you do not see MapInfo's SpatialWare in this category? In
many regards, I think it meets these criteria better than SDE. Any
SpatialWare users able t to comment?

Jim
James Henry
JCH GeoInfo Solutions 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Eric Gagnon
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:28 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MI-L] Mapinfo capabilities
> 
> Yes, I agree..
> That's why I wanted to start this discussion..
> I just hope everybody will give some feedback on this issue 
> an somebody at MapInfo will here us.
> 
> After all we are the Mapinfo users.. and some people in this 
> list are real hardcore!!
> So I just hope that mapinfo won't let thes GIS sectors down 
> and will be competitive in regards to other GIS companies 
> that offer solutions in these sectors.
> 
> 
> Eric
> 
> Eric Gagnon, B.Sc.
> Maptica
> www.maptica.com
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Cubin wrote:
> > Hi Eric
> > Although I do use MapInfo a lot (I helped set up the UK User Group 
> > over 10 years ago), I do find that I can only recommend 
> ESRI products 
> > to my clients when GIS is required for "corporate" use. This is 
> > primarily because of SDE and not due to any desktop functionality.  
> > SDE (enhanced by products such as
> > ArcFM) handles multi-user environments very well - especially where 
> > editing is required.  Furthermore, with ESRI latest 9.2 release of 
> > ArcGIS, there is now feature-level auditing built in to the 
> > geodatabase.  Unfortunately, MapInfo simply cant cater for this - 
> > which is a shame because I think MapInfo is the best 
> desktop GIS you 
> > can get.  The problem with MapInfo is that when you have many users 
> > (especially out in the field e.g. utility
> > engineers) then you have to programmatically cater for 
> synchronisation.
> > There are a few tools out there, but nothing that really works 
> > seamlessly with the database - and this is where SDE comes 
> in.  One of 
> > my larger clients is a water utility with 6m+ customers and they do 
> > have some MapInfo clients.  This is fine as I just allow ArcIMS to 
> > deploy OGC WMS and WFS services and one day WFS-T (ie. 
> Transactions) 
> > will be deployed, but when it comes to editing then an ESRI 
> client is 
> > required.  SDE off the shelf manages the multi-user 
> multi-department 
> > environment really well and it is extraordinarily fast - searching 
> > through millions of spatial (pipeline) records in 
> milliseconds is no problem.
> >
> > An important note regarding AutoCAD is that by default they support 
> > SDE editing.  This means that within AutoCAD you can start 
> up the SDE 
> > CadClient menu that will give u full access read/write to SDE 
> > databases.  This is a very powerful feature particularly as the 
> > AutoCAD drawings themselves, feature by feature, can be 
> stored within 
> > the SDE database or as a BLOB of DWG.  Therefore SDE 
> handles the whole AutoCAD editing process.  Impressive.
> >
> >
> > Companies such as Miner and Miner http://www.miner.com/ 
> have made full 
> > use of the Geodatabase with the internal business rules, all based 
> > around SDE, and developed a very powerful suite of products for the 
> > Utility corporate infrastructure.
> >
> > There are several ways to go with this for MapInfo as far 
> as I can see:
> >
> > 1. Develop rival product - rulebase support for Oracle/SQL Server 
> > Spatial (how about PostGIS?) This would be a layer that 
> sits on top of 
> > SDO (much like SDE) and support the business logic. All 
> > reading/writing would pass through this layer.
> > 2. Develop full SDE API/Geodatabase support.
> > If they don't want to create a rival product then MapInfo 
> could simply 
> > the SDE interface therefore opening up the utility market for third 
> > party developers - just like Miner and Miner.
> > 3. Drive forward Open GIS Consortium
> > They could very aggressively drive the Transactional 
> support for WFS 
> > map services.  MapInfo already has a very decent WMS/WFS 
> client and if 
> > editing was supported via OGC, then the backend could be 
> SDE anyway.  
> > ArcIMS could be deploying the data or another map server.
> >
> > Those are my thoughts on the matter! I am sure there are 
> some products 
> > out there that do support "municipal" or "corporate" infrastructure 
> > but I havent seen many.  To develop those products without an 
> > underlying intelligent spatial database layer is very tricky - you 
> > have to cover all the bases
> > yourself: syncrhonisation, feature auditing, feature locking......
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Eric 
> > Gagnon
> > Sent: 12 October 2006 18:24
> > To: mapinfo list
> > Subject: [MI-L] Mapinfo capabilities
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We see other companies bringing different GIS packages to 
> > infrastructure / utility  mapping.
> > Esri has solutions for this.
> > So does Intergraph and Autocad.
> > I keep seing marketing strategies offered by mapinfo but more going 
> > towards business location. (marketing, banking, insurance, etc..).
> > I wonder if there's something, a MI add-on or a application 
> that gives 
> > more attention to industrial / municipal / infrastructure GIS.
> >
> >
> > I hope that somebody can shed some light on this.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > --
> > Eric Gagnon, B.Sc.
> > Maptica
> > www.maptica.com
> >
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