On Dec 21, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Harald MAYER wrote:

> hi dane, 
> thanks for the warm welcome and for offering to dig into the label 
> positioning problem when you find some time - there is no urgency, but as i'm 
> certainly going to face the same problem with future maps of similar style, 
> i'm glad if you can take a look at it. 

Sorry I've not yet picket this up. If you create a ticket at trac.mapnik.org 
you can be sure I won't loose trac of it.

> and also thanks for shedding light on the usage of shild_displacement - i 
> misread the wiki documentation. looking forward to your patch that will 
> facilitate xml-debugging. 

This patch for better feedback on misspelled xml properties just landed: 
https://trac.mapnik.org/changeset/2582

> kind regards from Vienna, 
> harald 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:        Dane Springmeyer <[email protected]> 
> To:        Harald MAYER <[email protected]> 
> Cc:        [email protected] 
> Date:        18.12.2010 19:02 
> Subject:        Re: [Mapnik-users] ShieldSymbolizer positioning problems 
> Sent by:        [email protected] 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:49 AM, Harald MAYER wrote: 
> 
> dear mapnik-users, 
> this being my first email to this list, a short introduction: 
> 
> Hi Harald, welcome! 
> 
> my name is harald mayer, i'm working as web manager at the austrian section 
> of the medical humanitarian organization Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors 
> without Borders (MSF). 
> after producing a series of online maps (like for example 
> http://maps.msf.at/index.php?map=sudan2010) mainly based on the excellent 
> (mapnik-rendered) tiles from mapbox.com, i recently started using mapnik with 
> the intention to produce high-res, printable versions of our (kml-based) 
> online-maps (see the first result here: 
> http://maps.msf.at/mapnik/msf_sudan_2010.jpg). 
> 
> Great, awesome to see you leveraging Mapnik and the MapBox styles for this 
> work. 
> 
> 
> to visualize our project-locations in a similar way as in our "online-maps", 
> i use ShieldSymbolizers. the problem i face is the exact positioning of 
> those: depending on the line-count of the text that the ShieldSymbolizer 
> renders, the positioning of the label changes, somehow overruling the 
> settings made with the "vertical_alignment"-attribute.  i tried to illustrate 
> the problem with the attached image: all ShieldSymbolizers used in this test 
> have the same value for "dy" and show results for "vertical_alignment" 
> bottom, top and middle; as you can see, the label is positioned in a 
> different way depending on the line-count of the text, despite same settings 
> for "vertical_alignment". 
> 
> Okay. Sounds tricky and I would need some time to investigate further to get 
> a deeper sense of the problem. I'm on the road currently, but I can try to 
> dig more into this to give you suggestions next week. 
> 
> another problem i have is that i can't figure out how to use the attribute 
> "shield_displacement"; 
> 
> It is only available in trunk and via xml is 'shield_dx' and 'shield_dy' 
> (http://trac.mapnik.org/browser/trunk/src/load_map.cpp#L1390). 
> 
> It is an urgent need to get better docs up showing which versions support 
> which parameters. I also am working on this patch 
> (http://trac.mapnik.org/ticket/110) which will give you more feedback when 
> you have misspelled or otherwise used a parameter name that has no effect for 
> your given Mapnik version. 
> 
> i've tried: 
> shield_displacement="10,10" 
> shield_displacement="(10,10)" 
> shield_displacement="10" 
> in my mapnik-XML, but none of those showed any effect. can someone point me 
> in the right direction? 
> thanks & kind regards, 
> harald 
> 
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