Hi Susanna! I can't be at Wikimania, but Angelika will be there. I'm forwarding this mail to her.
Best, Johannes On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:52:37 +0300 Susanna Ånäs <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Johannes and everyone on the maps list, > > In relation to the Wikimaps project I have proposed a round table for > geodata in the Wikimania DevCamp, on Wednesday the 7th in the afternoon. It > does not seem to show in the program yet. > > There are ways in which we all want maps to be displayed and geographic > data to be stored. We need to come together with the projects and > definitions. In the Wikimaps proposal > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimaps > we are proposing to develop both a gazetteer of historical places and to > develop the display of maps in Wikimedia. > > Would you, Johannes, be attending Wikimania, or anyone else from the > project? If not and in any case, we need to find a way to coordinate > outside events. > > Everyone else also, please join the discussion in Wikimania and on the list. > > Best regards, > Susanna > > > 2013/7/24 Johannes Kroll <[email protected]> > > > Hi Tim, > > > > thanks for your reply. > > > > On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:53:27 +0200 > > Tim Alder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hello Johannes, the OSM extension has it's installation-docu: > > > > > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Georeferenzierung/Anwendungen/OpenStreetMap/en#Installation > > > > > > That means we load the following JS into the system: > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:OSM.js > > > > > > This JS looks in the article to find a coordinate-hook and add a link > > > behind it, this link open the iframe. > > > > Sounds good so far. > > > > > > > It's all relatively complex and I believe a normal weblink would be > > > for your tool perhaps be the better alternative. By a template this > > > link could also be in the right top corner, but your tool wouldn't run > > > in an iframe. The solution with an iframe has also disadvantages that > > > the window is relatively small. > > > > The web link is what we can currently do. If we wanted that, I wouldn't > > have asked here. > > > > > > > About how many articles we are talking? > > > > We want to place the map into some articles copied to user pages at > > first, as a test case/demo. > > > > Then, we want to integrate the map into the Limes-related articles. Our > > DB currently contains historical information about ~1100 different > > Lemmas. Not all of them correspond to a separate WP article. > > > > There is interest in the community for another project which will use > > the map software. This next map will display time-based data about > > villages which were demolished for coal surface mining. I'm currently > > extending the software to be configurable and more generic, so that > > other projects can use the map without changing the code. The mining map > > should probably also be integrated into articles. This will include 150 > > articles or so. See [0] for discussion. > > > > We are currently using a temporary method for data input and storage. At > > some point we will switch to Wikidata, which we couldn't use at the > > start mainly because it couldn't store geographic locations, which > > it now can. > > > > > > > Could we find a more generic way for all historical map by supporting > > > later OpenHistoricMap? Than the situation would be different. > > > > I haven't looked at OpenHistoricMap in detail. > > > > > > So, if I understand correctly, the next step would be to create a script > > similar to MediaWiki:OSM.js, which we then install in the Wiki by > > modifying MediaWiki:Common.js. Correct? > > > > > > I don't want to work on something that people are opposed to. If > > there's consensus that we should not integrate the map into WP > > articles, I will just pass that on to the community and my WMDE > > colleagues. What do other people think? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Johannes > > > > > > [0] > > > > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Bautzen#Pilotprojekt_zu_W.C3.BCstungen_und_abgebrochenen_D.C3.B6rfern > > > > -- > > Johannes Kroll > > Softwareentwickler > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin > > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 > > > > http://wikimedia.de > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > > unter der Nummer 23855 B. 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