Maptitude - http://research.umbc.edu/~roswell/maptitude.html
Actually there is a real simple way to implement statistics.
Put a button on the tool bar: "Make S-Plus data Frame" or ... SPSS, or
SAS, or whatever. This is more than just making file conversions, it would
be supper convenient. It needs to be something more facile than just being
able to save an SPLUS dataframe. Of course what would be really cool is to
integrate GISDK with a stat package or the other way around. Maptitude would
need a capacity to make an adjacency file as well.
The ESRI product has some drop down menu stuff but in the end one doesn't
use the menu stuff. One ends up in SPLUS and then back to AV then back to
SPLUS. So forth. There is no sharing violation problems, etc. AV has
completely made of mess of the selection set idea which Maptitude does very
well - Maptitude is a far stronger candidate for a stat connection.
If caliper wants to add functionality into the package directly, then R
which is a public domain look alike for S-plus is free. The problem with
these packages is that they have pretty vertical learning curves. SYSTAT
(now by SPSS) might be a good compromise. SYSTAT is a great package, has a
basic-like programming language and the product itself has floundered a bit
since being taken over by SPSS. Seems SPSS might like to have a GIS
integrated with SYSTAT.
Richard E. Hoskins
WA State Department of Health
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-----Original Message-----
From: kbyrnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 7:18 PM
To: Maptitude
Subject: Re: [Maptitude] Maptitude and statistics
Maptitude - http://research.umbc.edu/~roswell/maptitude.html
I have tried to directly encourage Caliper to consider this....they have
indicated that they are evaluating programs but they seem more interested in
creating, enhancing or preserving file exchange compatibility with an
external
statistics software package. My own introduction to computer mapping in
graduate school (back in the pre-historic era of Hollerith punch cards ....
no
dimpled or pregnant chad problems in those days!) was the old SYMAP system
from
Harvard and a library of spatial analysis programs written mostly in FORTRAN
by
quantitative geographers who saw an explanatory benefit in the ability to
map
statistical data.
In my view, a line can be drawn between the users who want to draw a map of
a
phenomenon and those who want to try to explain the why, the how and the
where
of the phenomenon's existence. For Caliper, the consumer's choice should
not
just be a choice between TransCad, GIS+ or Maptitude, but rather (as I see
it)
the introduction of a "Professional" upgrade version for GIS+ and Maptitude
which adds the functionality of a spatial statistics package as internal
features of the "Professional" package.
For the added functionality which such a package would bring to a GIS user,
Maptitude's price could be doubled and still be a bargain. Moreover, the
package would have a competitive advantage in the academic marketplace for
graduate classes in quantitative marketing, geography, sociology
(demographics), operations research and logistics, etc. It would create a
natural learning curve from undergraduate to graduate users and, I should
think, help Caliper substantially in competing with the more expensive and
harder-to-use ESRI product line. Furthermore, academic researchers,
professional marketing researchers, and governmental users would have a
better
toolkit to "explain" the world focused in their research cross-hairs.
So that's my 2 cents worth!
Kevin Byrnes
Richmond, VA
Health Maps wrote:
> Maptitude - http://research.umbc.edu/~roswell/maptitude.html
>
> I would be interested in knowing to what degree Maptitude users want a
real
> connection to a statistical package. ArcView has one to S-Plus and it is
> quite effective although as usual, I wouldn't have designed it that way.
> Splus has a spatial statistics package which is not bad.
>
> But ESRI is not really all that interested. Seems Caliper could really
make
> a contribution here.
>
> Suppose one could run regression models and make quality graphs with data
> one has in selection sets?
>
> Richard E. Hoskins
> WA State Department of Health
> 1102 Quince Street
> Olympia, WA 98504-7812
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> fax: (360) 236 - 4245
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>
> Note: All messages to and from the Department of Health may be disclosed
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> the public.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marjorie Roswell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:05 AM
> To: Maptitude
> Subject: Re: [Maptitude] Elections 2000 Web Site
>
> Maptitude - http://research.umbc.edu/~roswell/maptitude.html
>
> I could also call this email "pride."
>
> As the listserv "owner" (founder) let me say, I think we are an awesome
> bunch of people. Giovanni, as the developer of Maptitude for the Web has
> built a great product that makes it easy for us to do interactive
> web-based mapping.
>
> Michael Meuser's environmental mapping is very cool, and more importantly:
> meaningful.
>
> Richard Hoskins is doing innovative work that's a model for public health
> agencies around the country.
>
> To redirect this conversation a little bit, I'd like to ask people the
> same question that I did when I first developed this listserv: what cool
> stuff are you doing with Maptitude and Maptitude for the Web?
>
> The Election 2000 site definitely qualifies. What's your project?
>
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