On 14/Dec/11 20:56, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>> From: ietf.org On Behalf Of Alessandro Vesely
>> 
>> Section 3.1's title and its reference to Section 3.3 /are/ seriously
>> wrong.
> 
> The creation of this new ARF type comprises a bunch of extension
> fields and their definitions, and little else.  Therefore,
> "Extension ARF Fields for Authentication Failure Reporting" seems
> perfectly good.

The last two paragraphs of Section 3.1 are not related to any specific
field.  In addition, since you agreed to move the sentences that
describe the failure-to-report relationship "to just above section
3.1" --thereby decoupling them from the A-R field-- Section 3 will
host one more statement which is about the overall semantics rather
than any specific field.  That title is at least misleading.

> Similarly, the document recognizes five specific types of
> authentication failures about which reports can be generated, and
> thus the title "Authentication Failure Types" seems a perfectly
> good title for a section in which to enumerate them.

Yes it is.  I meant the second sentence in the first paragraph of
Section 3.1:

   A new feedback type of "auth-failure" is defined as an extension to
   Section 8.2 of [ARF].  See Section 3.3 for details.

> I fail to see how either of these are wrong at all, let alone seriously.

That quoted paragraph says that the details of "auth-failure" consist
of the possible values of Auth-Failure.  Isn't it wrong?

BTW, Section 8.2 of [ARF] is about the *Interpretation* of the report
format.  You probably mean Section 7.3 (but shouldn't such reference
belong to the IANA Considerations section?)

After those two lines, the section continues with several fields
specifications.  Not all fields, just some.  A reader may wander why
Delivery-Result is listed here while Auth-Failure itself is not.  A
title of "New ARF Feedback Type" doesn't help.

BTW, the specification of Delivery-Result is in Section 3.2.2, not 3.2.1.

> My solution is to use John's suggestion and make no other changes,
> absent any consensus that pushes for what you're suggesting.
> Otherwise, we can die nitting on this minor stuff and never get it
> out the door.

My purpose is not to delay the publication.  I'm replying because I
think you misunderstood what I said.  If I had been nitting, I would
have contested the entanglement of defining a field in Section 3.2.1
postponing the discussion of its content to Section 3.3, while it
would have made for easier reading (and writing) to have that field
defined and discussed in a single place.

>> ARF mentions "a suspect URI that was found in the message that caused
>> the report to be generated", not a synthesized URI, e.g. obtained by
>> prepending "http://www."; to a random domain-like string :-/
> 
> The third part of the report only contains the header of the
> message causing the report to be generated, which RFC5965 allows.
> Presumably, then, the reported URI came from someplace in the body
> of the message, which isn't shown here (and doesn't need to be, by
> ARF's definitions).

For that to hold, you may want to add l=53 to the DKIM-Signature, or
replace the following field

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 NhbWUgdGltZSB0aGF0IHRoZSBib2R5aGFzaCBmYWlscyB0byB2ZXJ
 pZnksIHRoZQptZXNzYWdlIGNvbnRlbnQgaXMgY2xlYXJseSBhYnVz
 aXZlIG9mIHBoaXNoeSwgYXMgdGhlClN1YmplY3QgYWxyZWFkeSBoa
 W50cy4gIEluZGVlZCwgdGhpcyBib2R5IGFsc28gY29udGFpbnMKdG
 hlIGZvbGxvd2luZyB0ZXh0CgogICBQbGVhc2UgZW50ZXIgeW91ciB
 mdWxsIGJhbmsgY3JlZGVudGlhbHMgYXQKICAgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5z
 ZW5kZXIuZXhhbXBsZS8KCldlIGFyZSBpbXBseWluZyB0aGF0LCBhb
 HRob3VnaCBtdWx0aXBsZSBmYWlsdXJlcwpyZXF1aXJlIG11bHRpcG
 xlIHJlcG9ydHMsIGEgc2luZ2xlIGZhaWx1cmUgY2FuIGJlCnJlcG9
 ydGVkIGFsb25nIHdpdGggcGhpc2hpbmcgaW4gYSBzaW5nbGUgcmVw
 b3J0Lgo=
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