> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alessandro Vesely [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:26 AM
> To: Murray S. Kucherawy
> Cc: Pete Resnick; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-12.txt
> 
> > Sounds to me like you're saying the same thing.
> 
> More or less yes.  It's not a sharp concept, however tweaked.  I was
> just trying to make sure we're not introducing wrong interpretations,
> such as "always put the same type since recipients may not care"...

It's meant to be a level-set of assumptions.  If you don't know how your report 
recipient will handle types other than "abuse" (which all of them use), then 
you can't make any assumptions.

> > Ah, right, this was lost to memory when Pete and I discussed it in
> > Paris.  So how about this, re-inserted as 6.3/1:
> >
> >    1.  Rather than generating feedback reports themselves, MUAs SHOULD
> >        make abuse reports back to their mailbox providers so that they
> >        can generate and send ARF messages on behalf of end users. This
> >        allows centralized processing and tracking of reports, and
> >        provides training input to filtering systems.
> 
> As long as "make abuse reports back" is clear, that may work.  MUAs
> could use any of John's taxonomy techniques[1], I don't know if it
> could be acceptable to refer to that page...

I'll note here that there's no standard signaling mechanism for use between 
MUAs and ISPs to trigger reports.

> For a nit, the I-D uses the term "report generator".  Its meaning is
> obvious.  However, RFC 6449 uses "Feedback Provider" instead.  Would
> the addition of a definition in Section 2 ease such references?  E.g.
> something like so:
> [...]

Actually changing "report generator" to "Feedback Provider" is a better idea 
because it makes the two documents even more consistent with each other.  So 
I'll do that as well.

-MSK

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