On 21/03/10 06:13 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
* Seumas Mac Uilleachan <[email protected]> [2010-03-21 00:45]:
I hear constantly about needing "Gruber's blessing" for any
overhaul or changes to Markdown. Why?
In case you are referring to my own recent mail, I never said it
needs *Gruber*’s blessing specifically. What it does need is one
central voice. If you think it doesn’t, then ask yourself why all
of the reimplementations have added their own features, yet none
of them have copied each other.
I wasn't referring to you specifically. I keep reading here about how
the lack of input from him is what is causing the perceived
fragmentation in Markdown implementations. All I meant to say is that
Gruber seems to have lost interest in Markdown development and we just
need to move beyond needing his blessing.
Except that several of them have copied Markdown Extra. As it
happens, Michel Fortin had some blessing from Gruber on several
of his efforts. Coincidence?
No one needs permission or blessing to fork Markdown. Many people
have done it.
But that’s the point. To get more than Just Another Fork, it neds
to have weight of voice to bring all the other forks together
behind it.
The goal of markdown is readability. There is no such thing as
a readable html table. I would argue that tables are a useful
enough feature to include. Whether it is done badly or well is
often subjective. At the minimum a simple table format would be
important to me (not requiring spanning cells or complex table
layouts). Tables are the easiest way to list corresponding
values or data that they really should be somehow included.
The problem with tables as I see it is as above: I think that
tables fundamentally cannot be both easy to edit and easy to read
within the constraints of plaintext.
It depends on what you are trying to do. If you want a simple
multi-column list of corresponding text such as:
Position Team P GD PTS
1 Man Utd 31 46 67
2 Arsenal 31 40 67
3 Chelsea 29 42 64
4 Tottenham 30 26 55
5 Liverpool 31 19 52
6 Man City 28 17 50
7 Aston Villa 29 17 50
8 Everton 30 6 45
9 Birmingham 30 -3 44
10 Fulham 29 0 38
11 Stoke 30 -6 36
12 Sunderland 30 -6 34
13 Blackburn 29 -17 34
14 Bolton 31 -20 32
15 Wigan 31 -30 31
16 Wolves 30 -24 28
17 West Ham 30 -14 27
18 Burnley 31 -33 24
19 Hull 30 -35 24
20 Portsmouth 30 -25 13
It should be possible to do without having to use html. For more complex
tables (eg multiple lines in spanning cells, tables within tables) you
are getting into a different kettle of fish - I can see requiring html
for that.
Regards,
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