On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com>wrote:
> Adding Rohit via his a.o address. > Thanks, yes please refrain from using my old/new corporate email addresses. I'll stick to my initial vote and would propose listing the books on the wiki immediately. Cheers. > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 02:52:31PM -0400, Sebastien Goasguen wrote: > > Ilya, Rohit, Joe, Noah, > > > > I am re-sending this with you in CC to make sure you read it. > > > > Since there was little response the wiki link has been established > already, but I would like to get feedback on explicitly modifying the > bylaws to explain that marketing topics happen on the marketing list and > that Lazy majority or Lazy 2/3 majority will be required. > > > > -sebastien > > > > On Jun 12, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Hi, (note only marketing@) > > > > > > Apologies for a belated wrap up of this important vote. Please reply > in-line. > > > > > > [RESULTS]: > > > > > > +1 : 24 (Sebastien, Giles, Nguyen, Ryan, Kelly, Geoff, Roland, Alex, > Nehal, Sapm4kev, Gaspare, Kelcey, José,OutbackDingo, Todd, Eric, David, > Kimihiko, Radhika, Clayton, Chip, Chiradeep, Tariq, Mark) > > > > > > > > > -0 : 2 (Noah, Joe also vote +0) > > > > > > -1: 2 (Rohit, Ilya) > > > > > > [SUMMARY]: > > > > > > Rohit would be +1 on listing in the wiki, Ilya would be +0 on listing > in the wiki. > > > So it seems that we would have unanimous consensus for listing on the > wiki, even though there is a strong majority for the website. > > > > > > [DISCUSS]: > > > > > > I felt it was important to poll folks that are only on dev@ or users@and > > > the results show that some folks who have never voted, got engaged in > this VOTE. This is a very positive side effect despite the confusion that I > created by bcc all lists. > > > > > > Our bylaws [1] do not cover votes on non-technical matters, so while > we have lazy majority on this vote it seems that this situation is not > covered by the bylaws. Moreover section 3.1.1 of bylaws says that decisions > on the project happen on dev@, so it seems that votes even on marketing@are > not allowed (unsure about this). > > > > > > I propose the following: > > > > > > 1-To move forward without having to re-cast a vote, I propose to list > immediately the books on the Wiki, and inform Packt. I just created the > page [2] > > > 2- If people agree that we have a bylaw "loophole", we need to modify > the bylaws to allow votes on marketing@ and agree on using Lazy majority > or Lazy 2/3 majority. > > > > > > Once we agree, I will inform users@ and dev@ and invite folks who > participated in this vote to join marketing@ > > > > > > 3- We could then re-cast a vote to list on the website > > > > > > [1] http://cloudstack.apache.org/bylaws.html > > > [2] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Books > > > > > > Ps: fwiw, I think this is overly complicated but the only way forward > in the apache way. > > > > > > -Sebastien > > > > >
