Thanks, Noah. I hear you. Believe me. I'm working with another PMC right now on finding a way to help TLPs with this issue.
Just so you know, CouchDB is high on my awareness list. I actually pitched you guys to a reporter yesterday who had similar Cloudant/CouchDB confusion. Furthermore, the ASF Board is aware of the need and is in support of our finding a solution. Bear with us, but don't remain silent. -Sally >________________________________ > From: Noah Slater <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Cc: TheApacheFoundation . <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014, 11:08 >Subject: Cloudant and CouchDB branding > > >Hello marketing folks, > >Check out this list of 15 NoSQL databases to watch, posted by the >Cloudant Twitter account: > >http://www.informationweek.com/big-data/big-data-analytics/16-nosql-newsql-databases-to-watch/d/d-id/1269559?image_number=1 > >It actually took me several minutes to spot that Cloudant was in that >list. I had a draft tweet reply asking why it wasn't mentioned before >I spotted it. > >The logo is about 66% the IBM logo, then 33% the Cloudant logo. Which >is a bit weird, if you ask me. But there you go. That's Cloudant's >issue, not ours. > >What I do take issue with is that in a list of 15 top NoSQL databases, >CouchDB doesn't get a mention, but a company that packages up >(admittedly, a fork of, at this point) CouchDB does. And it is >Cloudant's name that gets press. > >We have: > >- MongoDB >- Riak >- Apache HBase >- Cassandra >- Cloudant > >One of those is not like the others. Anyone else see the problem with this? > >What can we do about it? > >The author of the article posted this tweet about it: > >https://twitter.com/DHenschen/status/477089827981377536 > >I replied with two tweets: > >> @DHenschen thanks for the coverage of Cloudant, a CouchDB provider! Just >> wondering why you don’t mention CouchDB specifically? > >https://twitter.com/nslater/status/477104465976512512 > >> @DHenschen I imagine that if you were covering Hadoop, you’d mention Hadoop >> specifically, and not Cloudera or Hortonworks. > >https://twitter.com/nslater/status/477104509513396224 > >I spoke to Jan about this before sending. Jan mentions that this is >probably the result of Cloudant having a strong PR/AR game. > >We don't engage PR/AR at all. I'm wondering what we can do to change >this. Because this article (while cool for Cloudant) makes me very >sad. > >Sally, is there anything you can do to help us avoid this sort of >situation in the future? I brand has really taken a beating in recent >years, and stuff like this really does not help us at all. > >Thanks, > >-- >Noah Slater >https://twitter.com/nslater > >
