On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 12:35 +0100, Thomas Krumbein wrote:
> Hey Drew,
> 
> Am 01.11.2010 12:16, schrieb Drew Jensen:
> > On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:22 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Drew Jensen wrote on 2010-11-01 11.21:
> >>> Where can I find the financial disclosure for the legal entity known as
> >>> OpenOffice.org Deutschland e.V ?
> >>
> >> why would you need that?
> > 
> > Well, for a month now you have in reality been collecting donations in
> > and spending money in, my name.
> 
> Well, I have made in regular intervals a report about foundings and cost
> - last one was send Oct, 16, 2010 to the ooofuture list.
> 
> I add the content below.
> 
> Next report will follow soon (I will make monthly reports in future -
> starting november :-) )
> 
> So - dont worry, everything is transparent.
> 
> Best regards
> Thomas Krumbein
> 
> ######
> 
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Betreff: [ooofuture] missing business concept / first overview figures
> Datum: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:11:15 +0200
> Von: Thomas Krumbein <[email protected]>
> Antwort an: [email protected]
> An: [email protected]
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> as you know, the OOoDeV temporaly take over the cost and founds for the
> upcoming TDF.
> 
> So I will give you now a first overview about those figures:
> 
> Since Sep, 28 we recieved a lot of small to very small amounts of money
> mainly via PayPal - so PayPal charge some fees of each recieved amount.
> The sums are:
> recieved from Sep, 28 to Sep., 30 :    939,76 EUR
> recieves form Oct, 01 to Oct, 15  :    709,36 EUR
> additional recieved via bank account:  201,00 EUR
> Founds summery:                      1.850,03 EUR
> 
> 
> Costs since starting up the Foundation:
> Mainly hardware (Server) cost and domain-registration, up to now:
>                             467,07 EUR
> Fees for trademark "LibreOffice" and "The Document Foundation":
>                                      1.800,00 EUR
> Costs for the layer (not payed jet) appr.
>                                      2.000,- EUR.
> Sum costs:                           4.267,07 EUR
> 
> That means, up to now we do have a deficit of appr. 2.400,- EUR.
> 
> OK, what I missed: we got lot of small ammount donations (10 US$, 5 EUR,
> 20 CAD, ...), but there is no ammount higher then 100 EUR. All donations
> we recieved from privat persons - I did not see a company transfer.
> 
> We do have a lot of "support statements" on our webside - but those
> words did not follow any actions...
> 
> Looking forward to set up the foundation it is not done with "nice
> words", we need money. We need a typical business-plan, which figure
> out, how many money is needed and where we will get it. I haven´t see
> anything like this?
> 
> Looking forward to the foundation: the foundation will need money - as a
> found stock (should be as high as possible) and for "daily work" - so
> ervery oranisation has costs during the year - means government fees,
> tax, account fees, founding fees, server costs and so on.
> This costs could not be covered with those small donations as recieved
> daily.
> 
> So, any idears? Is someone working on this?
> 
> best regards
> 

Thank you Thomas




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