Graham,
Le Wed, 03 Nov 2010 00:30:35 +1300, Graham Lauder <yori...@openoffice.org> a écrit : > On Tuesday 02 Nov 2010 22:52:31 Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > Le Tue, 02 Nov 2010 10:29:38 +0100, > > > > Monfort Florian <florian.monf...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > Le mardi 02 novembre 2010 à 09:27 +0000, Ian a écrit : > > > > > I'm going to suscribe to the French mailing list ( as I am > > > > > French lol ) and I think there are some people who could be > > > > > interested of being representative for France. > > > > > > > > > > Should I talk about it ? Or is this something we should wait > > > > > TDF to be a legal entity ? > > > > > > > > Bonjour Montfort, > > > > > > > > Je ne pense pas que vous avez besoin de retard. Il n'y a pas > > > > beaucoup de temps si les délégués veulent obtenir du financement > > > > pour la réunion par leur Agence nationale de l'UE.S'il vous > > > > plaît diffuser aussi largement que possible. Cela va m'aider si > > > > ces e-mail intéressés moi si je sais que la mesure de l'intérêt. > > > > > > > > Merci > > > > I think it's perhaps safe to remind everyone that this > > "certification" is not exactly a Document Foundation certification. > > First, we're in the process of establishing the foundation; second, > > we need to be working on a certification programme and I am not the > > only here, obviously, who thinks it's an essential matter :-) but > > we need to be working on it and give the time to do that. While I'm > > sure Ian has a lot of input on this, I would like to remind > > everyone here that the meeting Ian organizes is not done on behalf > > of the Document Foundation; as productive as it might be. I would > > have loved to join myself, but am running out of time. > > I think you have missed the point, define "on behalf of" > Read back over the mails. It seems "on behalf of" to me, not wholly > of course, because it takes a commercial organisation such as TLM to > get this established and that has be self sustaining. SUN wasn't > selling StarOffice or Java or Solaris "on behalf of" OOo, yet that > funded OOo. Novell doesn't sell SLE "on behalf of" OOo yet that > funds contribution to LibO. > > OOo bureaucracy rejected the opportunity of being involved in the > INGOTs programme quite a few years back. The foundation needs > funding, INGOTs has the infrastructure in place to generate such > funding. If we were to sit around waiting for an In House > Certification Certification the funding that would be generated by > that (if any after costs were covered) wouldn't arrive till the next > decade given the glacial pace of OOo Certs development and the > certification would probably be out of date and not subject to > rigorous moderation in any case The foundation does not and will not > have the resources to apply rigorous Quality control to such a > certification in any case. > > INGOTs assessment criteria are OfQual accredited, frankly, I doubt > that LibreO will ever have the clout to achieve anything like that. > The certification and assessment programme, because of that > accreditation, undergoes continuous moderation and Quality Assurance > by Education Professionals to ensure that it maintains the highest > Pedagogical standards. > > Developers are hard to come by, there aren't the numbers, however the > community can come up with a sizable number of people who have the > capability of becoming INGOTs Assessors/ Assessor Trainers in their > local areas. The project does not need to be working on it's "own" > certification (not straight away anyway) when a robust, proven, > rigorously moderated Assessment and Certification programme is being > handed to the project on a platter. > > Ian and his team have done all the work and have the systems in > place. LibreO has the geographical spread and a growing community > and hence the ability to generate funding for TDF. What better way > to fund the foundation than through the efforts of the Community > running grass roots certification programmes on behalf of their local > community, on behalf of themselves and INGOTs and "on behalf of" the > Foundation. > > Cheers > GL > > ps: Yes I am biased so sue me. :) LOL... All I'm pointing out, Graham, is that we have not yet thought in-depth about the INGOTS programme. It sure looks interesting, and we must definitely investigate it, but you surely don't want us to feel forced? Best, Charles. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
