Hi :) There is an alternative. Kexi It's the KOffice / Calligra equivalent of Base but it is in better shape than Base.
It already has a fairly strong community of devs. It is already free of Java and uses a few tiny Qt components instead. Qt is cross-platform too but apparently it's much easier to write. It supports a number of back-ends in the same way as Base so we wouldn't be taking a step backwards. The original KOffice forked to form Calligra because they reached a point where the code needed to be taken in one direction or another. Forking allowed them to go both routes. All their database devs went to Calligra and changed the name of their database program to Kexi. I agree that we need a database [rpgram in LibreOffice but i am not completely stuck on it being Base. I think we need to make a decision asap Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 14/9/11, Alexander Thurgood <[email protected]> wrote: From: Alexander Thurgood <[email protected]> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?) To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 7:05 Le 14/09/11 03:39, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : Hi all, > If we had more documentation for and people who really knows Base, it > would be easier to "sell" LO to some businesses. I know a user that I > had to add Office 2003 to his system since that was a deal breaker. He > has all of the books and modeling work in data base formats and cannot > "live" without Access. He created those DBs with MSO 97 and did not > upgrade to MSO 2003 until he switched computers and could not find the > install CD for '97. So unless LO can easily use Access files and > reports and forms he created over the years, he will not go to LO, even > thought he likes the idea behind LO and FOSS. > > So we really need to get more people to learn Base and ways for other to > easily learn how to use it. Writing documentation for Base is a pointless exercise for as long as the bugs which hinder the user from actually getting anywhere are not fixed. Currently it is like trying to sell a new car to someone where, once you get going, the motor drops out after 5 minutes. OK, so it is an exaggerated analogy, but realistically that is how it is today with Base (and it is not a new phenomenon, it has just got significantly worse since OOo released the 3.4-dev codebase and LibreOffice started). It is a chicken and egg situation : people don't want to use it or write documentation for it, because it doesn't work "as designed". Developers do not want to fix something that people do not want to use, especially when : - the effort just to get into the codebase is huge ; - you have to know quite a lot about databases ; - you have to know a substantial amount about Java programming ; - you have to understand UNO, and how the C++ code within LibreOffice is bound to the Java functionality that Sun added on and made interdependent. Not bad for a job description, huh ? Good luck finding someone prepared to take that on :-)) Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
