Last you heard perhaps. I open a document on GDocs today, and I could
save it on ODF. 

Best,

Charles. 


Le Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:28:49 +0100 (BST),
Tom Davies <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Hi :)
> Have you used Google-docs recently?  Last i heard, and that was just
> a month or so ago, Google-docs stopped allowing people to use ODF.  
> 
> FSF supports ODF aswell as supporting LibreOffice and TDF.  They are
> separate issues though.  Part of their campaign for ODF includes the
> crucial point that it can be used (or is even "the native format" of)
> quite a large range of different products. Regards from Tom :)  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >________________________________
> > From: Immanuel Giulea <[email protected]>
> >To: Tom Davies <[email protected]> 
> >Cc: "[email protected]"
> ><[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013,
> >12:13 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Campaign for ODF file
> >formats?
> > 
> >
> >On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Tom Davies
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi :)
> >> If we were to target certain companies to try to "get them
> >> onboard" with ODF then it might be good to start with our own
> >> "supporters".  Low hanging fruit should be easier, right?
> >> Google-docs doesn't allow people to use ODF!!  Actually i think
> >> ODF usage has improved quite a bit now that MS Office supports
> >> it.  It's really odd to have Google as one of the remaining
> >> barriers!
> >>
> >
> >I am not the biggest fan of Google, but in all fairness ODF is
> >supported by Google. You can open and edit ODT files. And ODS files.
> >As for ODP files I can't comment I never made slides on Google, I
> >prefer Impress.
> >
> >
> >
> >> I think quite a few people do "Ask websites that provide editable
> >> files in Word/Excel/PowerPoint to alternately or additionally
> >> provide versions in an ODF format." and it might be good to let
> >> such people know that there are groups they could join that might
> >> help them be more effective.  OASIS and the FSF are 2 such
> >> organisations that would be great to promote to TDF's mailing
> >> lists.  An announcement now might build-up momentum.  The timing
> >> would be about perfect right now.
> >>
> >
> >FSF supports LibreOffice as a free software, so it would be great.
> >OASIS is the backer of the OpenDocument Format (I prefer to use the
> >long name).
> >
> >
> >> Regards from
> >> Tom :)
> >>
> >
> >
> >Other notes:
> >Other efforts can be done with governments.
> >For example NATO has adopted ODF as an international file standard,
> >but not all member countries have this standard themselves.
> >ODF is also ISO.
> >
> >
> >Cheers from Montreal
> >Immanuel
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: Charles-H. Schulz <[email protected]>
> >> >To: [email protected]
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 9:59
> >> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Campaign for ODF file
> >> >formats?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hello Robinson,
> >> >
> >> >Le Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:29:10 -0400,
> >> >Robinson Tryon <[email protected]> a écrit :
> >> >
> >> >> The PDF Readers campaign[1] recently contacted LibreOffice and
> >> >> asked us to promote the use of Free Software readers for PDF
> >> >> file formats. We had a brief discussion[2] on the website
> >> >> mailing list, and I had the idea that it might be helpful for
> >> >> LibreOffice if we or the FSFE ran a similar campaign for ODF.
> >> >>
> >> >> There are several directions such a campaign could take; here
> >> >> are some of my first thoughts:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Promote the use of standardized icons for ODF files, both
> >> >> when listing files for download, or when listing system
> >> >> capabilities/allowed upload formats.
> >> >>
> >> >> (Question: Is there a standardized set of icons for ODF files?)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >There was a big debate a long time ago and the answer was that it
> >> >would not really work.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> 2) Promote the use of Free Software for reading/writing ODF file
> >> >> formats.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I assume you're familiar with the Document Freedom Day? We
> >> >participate to it too. But at the risk of playing the devil's
> >> >advocate, we promote the use of open standards and ODF, however,
> >> >promoting the use of Free Software for ODF file goes exactly
> >> >against the initial purpose: open standards are open to everyone,
> >> >even proprietary software. That's their value and their
> >> >importance.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> 3) Ask websites that provide ODF files to link to our list of
> >> >> ODF-compatible Free Software.
> >> >
> >> >our list --> you may rather want to have them link to the
> >> >wikipedia entry on ODF.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Following the concept of the PDF Readers campaign, we could get
> >> >> a domain like 'odf-software.org' and provide HTML and campaign
> >> >> badges/icons to make it trivial to link to the site.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Yes, but.... why should it be up to us? It could be up to the
> >> >OASIS Consortium and other movements to take care of that.  I
> >> >sound reluctant here not because I'm not interested but because
> >> >it's very important to realize that we are an implementor of ODF.
> >> >ODF as such is vendor neutral and while we ought to push the use
> >> >of  ODF we cannot "take over" the promotion of ODF.
> >> >>
> >> >> 4) Ask websites that provide editable files in
> >> >> Word/Excel/PowerPoint to alternately or additionally provide
> >> >> versions in an ODF format.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Preaching to the choir :-) Actually Wikipedia / Wikimedia already
> >> >provide the ability to create ODF documents based on a collection
> >> >of articles.
> >> >
> >> >Best,
> >> >
> >> >Charles.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> --R
> >> >>
> >> >> [1] http://pdfreaders.org/
> >> >> [2]
> >> >> http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/msg11433.html
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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