Hello Giuseppe, 
I'm following this topic with interest thinking about your words.

I'm an ambassador and I completely agree with Giannis.

I worked a bit with Mitzie, Chris and Joe, talkin' with them and Ruth in the 
meetings and I can say that they are open minded.
So I mean is that the magazine is not the only working way into the team. Yes, 
it's important but there's a lot of other areas to work.
I understand what you're referring to and if you think there's something you 
wanna change or make it better just work on all the marketing things; 
everything can be changed from the inside.
Marketing people is doing a great and hard work, please respect this fact.

Hope to see you soon. 

___________________________
Gabriele Trombini
Fedora Ambassador
FedoraOnLine staff member

> Il giorno 25/mar/2014, alle ore 22:33, Giuseppe Pignataro 
> <[email protected]> ha scritto:
> 
> Hi Giannis and all the others, 
> Thanks for yours contribution.
> I know that I have exaggerated on the title and on what I have writed. 
> I understand your position and I think the marketing team have made a good 
> work. But I believe that we need a little more to make difference.
> 
> More marketing strategies are needed. I see marketing as a little "war". This 
> is nothing about flame or by disapproving what good the marketing team have 
> made.
> 
> I like the same core values that you like of Fedora.
> 
> But more people need to know this and spread the word. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Il 25/mar/2014 22:11 "Giannis Konstantinidis" <[email protected]> 
> ha scritto:
>> Hi Guiseppe,
>> with all due respect, I think you're exaggerating a lot. There's no need to 
>> start "a war" against another project. There's no need to prove why Fedora 
>> is better than the x or y distro. We all promote the core values of free and 
>> open source software and it's always so nice to collaborate with other 
>> projects. 
>> 
>> When people claim that they think the x or y distro is better than Fedora, 
>> try to focus on the strengths of Fedora instead of opening a flame war. Some 
>> things for example that make me a proud Fedora contributor are the 4 
>> Foundations, with their deep meaning. So a few ideas to speak the good word 
>> about Fedora are:
>> - The fact that Fedora has one of the biggest and best communities out there
>> - Fedora respects the users' freedom, thus it ships with only free software 
>> by default
>> - Fedora is always innovative and trying to be ahead of other projects (in a 
>> good way)
>> - Fedora is upstream, so stuff that you see for the first time in Fedora are 
>> shared with other projects 
>> And trust me, out of experience, facts like these will get their attention 
>> and they will think again about it.
>> And in the end, everyone is free to choose whatever distro they wish, we're 
>> doing our best to spread the love about our project and get as many 
>> users/contributors as possible, but it's obvious that not everyone can be 
>> turned into a Fedora user/contributor.
>> 
>> As far as the magazine goes, there's no absolute reason to start posting 
>> installation guides and stuff like that, you can find stuff like these on 
>> the official documentation or even on Youtube. 
>> 
>> And by the way, I'm not a member of the marketing team, I'm and ambassador 
>> who's just reading the fedora marketing mailing list and this caught my 
>> attention. And from a third person observer perspective, I think that the 
>> marketing team is doing very good work in aiding to the promotion of the 
>> Fedora Project in general.
>> 
>> Again, we're taking part in no battle, there's no war out there and we're 
>> not losing anything. I personally think there's nothing wrong with Fedora or 
>> with its community so far and I like the way it is. :)
>> 
>> ~giannisk
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Zacharias Mitzelos 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Giuseppe joined fedora marketing last week, and he was interested in 
>>> contributing to the magazine as well, so I made him an account there.
>>> 
>>> Zacharias
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:15:21 -0400
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Fedora marketing is dead
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >> We'd love to have you as a contributor on Fedora Magazine. Feel free to 
>>> >> join the marketing team and submit an article any time. 
>>> 
>>> We are getting quite a bit of traffic on the Fedora Magazine as I have 
>>> passed the stats on to Matthew Miller. Especially since Fedora Magazine has 
>>> made LWN with Matt's post about Fedora Next. Just on his post alone one day 
>>> we had around 1200 visitors. Like Ruth said we would love to have more 
>>> contributions to the Fedora Magazine. 
>>> 
>>> Here is a link on how to get started:
>>> 
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Chris Roberts
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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