I could provide a cleaned up version of that and propose it along with
Robin's.  I had abandoned it because there was a lot wrong with it, I had
began documenting good practices instead.  I could return to it and place a
good version up.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 2/20/13 4:08 PM, Samer Mansour wrote:
> > Robin,
> >
> > You just hit on my points, I thought this was the feeling everyone was
> > getting.
> >
> > Ok I'm going to push through dev and marketing mailing lists to close up
> > proposals, I'll also ask dev thread to give feedback in the cwiki
> > comments.  You'll get even more feedback this way.
> > But know, not all comments will be nice, and not all feedback should be
> > taken... some people just have really bad design ideas/comments haha.
>
> Samer, do you have any plans to provide a complete of your designs
>
> see version v.28 ->
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=30751998
>
> Juergen
>
> >
> > Samer
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Robin Fowler
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> I've updated my proposal with a website overhaul (just the homepage for
> >> now).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/01+-+Design+Proposal+Robin+Fowler+-+12.02.2013
> >>
> >> I'm willing to push this forward, but it won't work without feedback. I
> >> have had no feedback so far on the branding proposal so i have no clue
> >> whether it's something there's interest in or not. I have to know that
> we
> >> can agree on my design (or anyone else's design) before I (we) put more
> >> work into it. Otherwise it's potentially a huge waste of time.
> >>
> >> If we can collectively agree on certain proposals then we can
> concentrate
> >> on refining and implementing them. I liked the way people gave feedback
> for
> >> my logo design, that really enhanced it. I think more of that is needed,
> >> regardless of whose design we're talking about.
> >>
> >> Robin
> >>
> >> On 20 Feb 2013, at 12:50, Kadal Amutham <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Regarding restructuring the various pages, kindly let me know how pages
> >>> need redesign. Among us there is a good graphic designer (I forgot his
> >>> name. Is it you?)  . With his help I can carry on the job with proper
> >>> monitoring guidance from you and Rob Weir.  I can do the layout of the
> >>> contents, bring the functionality etc.
> >>>
> >>> Anybody has good knowledge in Joomla! For the past few weeks I am
> >> learning
> >>> it. But I find lot of limitations in using it. But it may be easier to
> >>> design attractive sites using Joomla! by importing / buying good
> >> templates
> >>>
> >>> With Warm Regards
> >>>
> >>> V.Kadal Amutham
> >>> 919444360480
> >>> 914422396480
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 20 February 2013 16:17, Jürgen Schmidt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2/12/13 5:48 PM, Robin Fowler wrote:
> >>>>> Ok I've done it this way. If someone would prefer a different
> structure
> >>>> just let me know, but i think it makes sense.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Complete+Design+Proposals
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks, I think having all proposals in a similar form will help us to
> >>>> make a decision.
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe we need somebody who takes leadership for this branding
> >>>> refresh project and drive it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I proposed a schedule for AOO 4.0 on the dev list and aligned with
> this
> >>>> we should have a new logo (intro, splash screen, about) and new app
> and
> >>>> file icons in place until April 4th. Time is going forward and we
> should
> >>>> push this. It's an important piece for the release.
> >>>>
> >>>> Who is interested to drive this forward and will push the necessary
> >> steps?
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't have really the time for it and I believe others can do it
> >>>> better than me. The key point is that somebody drives it and keep it
> >>>> focused to a date and to find a decision.
> >>>>
> >>>> We will have probably several proposal which all have their
> advantages.
> >>>> People will have different opinions about the different proposals and
> >>>> that is normal. But in the end we need ONE consistent new branding
> with
> >>>> the design elements
> >>>>
> >>>> - logo, for different use cases (intro screen, start center, about,
> >>>> webpage, wiki, blog, merchandising, ...)
> >>>> - application icons
> >>>> - file icons
> >>>> - ??
> >>>>
> >>>> Juergen
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Robin
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 12 Feb 2013, at 15:45, Jürgen Schmidt <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/12/13 4:35 PM, Robin Fowler wrote:
> >>>>>>> I have made a more complete design proposal with colours, icons,
> and
> >>>> some basic guidelines (it's all in one file) and have no idea where to
> >> post
> >>>> it. I could either put it in one of the existing pages or create a new
> >> one
> >>>> for complete design proposals. Any suggestions?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would prefer one sub page for each proposal and an overview of all
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Juergen
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well done on the structuring btw.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Robin
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 9 Feb 2013, at 12:32, Andrea Pescetti <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 08/02/2013 Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Ok I just cranked away at it for a couple hours collecting where
> >> AOO
> >>>>>>>>> branding is applied.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Branding+Planning
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+Refresh+Project
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Very nice pages (and subpages), thanks for taking the lead here.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As for the selection process, I agree with Rob (and those who
> >>>> proposed it earlier) that it's better, also for publicity and for
> >> putting
> >>>> low entry barriers, to ask volunteers to provide at least a basic logo
> >> as a
> >>>> start, shortlist a few (about 3) proposals and get a more complete
> >> branding
> >>>> proposals for those ones, before the final selection is made.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Andrea.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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